What Does The Term "Technical" Mean to You? |
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Boboulo
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excuse my apparent arrogance, but I haven't heard it because I've never seen it used, not in magazines I read in the past, not on the internet. As for technical metal, it's just technical death metal. For any metal that is technical, people just call it progressive metal. Something like Zero Hour.
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Cynic Focus is the closest thing still, to me, to technical metal. There are death growls and vocals, but it's built prominently on the robot vocoder vocals. Crazy riffing almost constantly. Great discussion in this thread, keep it going!
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thank you for the insult, it was predictable...
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Yeah, I don't use last.fm exactly because they got their own names for genres and subgenres. They call Spastik Ink technical rock. I giggled... Paul Gilbert is technical rock? I've seen this kind of music called "instrumental" or "shred". But never like that. So every time a musician plays competently, with some skill, it becomes technical rock, right? |
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I'm assuming math rock and technical rock are interchangeable terms?
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"Wakeman brought a whole cannonry of keyboard tricks - what caused new comparisons to Keith Emerson - and took Yes even deeper into the realm of what became known as "flash" or technical rock." - from an article about Yes in The Illustrated New Musical Express Encyclopedia of Rock, 1976. "Leading creators of technical rock" - from NME journalist Nick Logan's Emerson Lake & Palmer article, the same book. |
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I've got that book, it's interesting that they don't use the term progressive rock for any of Yes, Genesis, ELP or similar bands. I'm pretty sure nobody referred to Yes as playing "technical rock" at the time however.
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do you have these quotes prepared? It's strange why the famous NME were not using a term like "progressive", but "flash" and "technical". "Flash" sounds pejorative, but hey, wasn't this the magazine that constantly mocked progressive rock artists? If the word "technical" is used just as an adjective that describes the music, then, ok, fine, it can be a little helpful, but if "technical rock" is a music genre, then it's confusing because it can be a lot of things, it's too wide, it does not help in any way. Rush, Saga, Toto, Steely Dan, Joe Satriani, were all technical, all sounded different. So "technical rock" as music genre does not work, makes little sense to me. |
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I've never heard of Technical Rock, but I have heard of a "Technical" military pick-up truck with a machine gun mounted in the back.
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - September 24 2020 at 05:22 |
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Omg.
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I could assume that that is Paul The Stealth Jihadist in the back of that truck, but the one with the pot with vegetables on the head would be more stealthy.
By the way, I have heard of technical rock climbing, but more often rock climbing techniques. As for technical music, I see it as music that takes a high level of technique/skill to create, and commonly those skills would have been developed with formal studies and much discipline. It can imply "soulless"/ more intellectual than emotional/ more formal than felt and as inorganic. The technicality will be found both in the musicianship and in the compositional skills. Much academic music could be called technical music. It can mean any music that takes a high level of skill to play and compose. |
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I've heard of Tech Metal (or Technical Death Metal), but without having listened to it, I have a strong feeling Tech Metal wouldn't appeal to me at all. Symphonic Metal appeals more to my eclectic tastes, and I like some Progressive Metal too on occasion, especially Ayreon and Dream Theater.
On the subject of the Yes: Relayer album, it no doubt displays a high level of technical ability, but I've never heard it referred to as "Technical Rock" before.
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The correct term is indeed technical death metal. I have never heard 'just' technical metal. Maybe magazines like NME use such non-standard terms but I was a contributor to metal archives for quite a while and interacted a lot with the mods there and I don't remember hearing just technical metal. Nor did I ever hear that term from my metalhead friends. I mean, a metal sub genre name by default has to be thrash metal/power metal/death metal/black metal and then you add prefixes like technical/progressive/brutal. I have also never heard the term technical 'rock' but svetty is free to have his NME references and gloat over it. Can't be bothered to argue with a spam generator.
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This thread has technically gone off the deep end. When Svetonio starts quoting stuff from an obscure website and a quote or two from a review, trying to make "technical rock" an actual genre, it is time to close up shop. When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
Technical rock does not have a Wiki page. Technical rock does not have any other direct references. Technical rock does not exist as a genre. To prove my point, type in "tech metal"...I get a Wiki page and over 1.8 million results.
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This. I think we may be confusing something that is technical to play (for me that's anything that doesn't use G, C and D chords) with a supposed genre of rock/metal.
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