Evolution of Prog in the 2010s

A subgenre of a subgenre? Not that I know of.

Your question is very vague, I think I understand but have no input as I am not sure enough. It sounds like you want band names and not discuss genres or sub-genres?

Actually, I want a discussion about the genres. I'm sorry about the vague wording, wasn't quite sure how to phrase the original question.

I wish your question was a bit more broad and went back a little bit further. For example, I think there's been a lot of alternative and indie influences in prog in the past 10-15 years that you didn't really see in the eighties or 90's that much(if at all). I don't know if alternative prog is a genre or subgenre though. There's also been metal in prog without being outright prog metal(most of it probably still gets labeled prog metal by most though). Other than those I don't really know of any specific scenes(regional or otherwise). A lot of the stuff I mentioned though(especially the prog with alternative elements)would probably be categorized as crossover prog on here. 

If doing that, then I think 20 years years is still so arbitrary, and I would go back at least to the 90s for prog influenced indie rock and alternative rock bands and prog rock bands influenced by Indie and alternative rock. And I would say that they are both to answer your question, and they overlap. And a band can be Prog/ Alternative Rock/ and Indie Rock.

Alt. Prog, alternative Prog, also known as Nu Prog and New Prog is a thing and there are lots of Indie Rock bands that also make prog or proggy music.

It's a topic which might be helped if you do some research and present your thesis and results first and then we can delve into your research, and maybe then people will learn something from you. Then as other respond you can respond and go deep with them. Questions are fine and good, but I do think it helps when one tries to answer them oneself, researches and forms opinions, and then presents that to others while asking others the question too.

20 or so years is fine for certain things. 30 might be better. I don't think one need to be too hung up on temporal limitations when it comes your latest question.

I doubt there are many new explorations in Symph since it's a dated sub-genre with facets that are inherently not very new. Most Symph bands nowadays would be kind of retro. Nothing wrong with that. But if you're looking for development, you'll find some in the more eclectic niches that are closer to Avant, Electronic, or Jazz. Canterbury or Post-Metal would be good examples.

Iacób wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: I wish your question was a bit more broad and went back a little bit further. For example, I think there's been a lot of alternative and indie influences in prog in the past 10-15 years that you didn't really see in the eighties or 90's that much(if at all). I don't know if alternative prog is a genre or subgenre though. There's also been metal in prog without being outright prog metal(most of it probably still gets labeled prog metal by most though). Other than those I don't really know of any specific scenes(regional or otherwise). A lot of the stuff I mentioned though(especially the prog with alternative elements)would probably be categorized as crossover prog on here.  Sorry about the late reply, but to answer your post, I agree, I would like to expand the scope of this discussion to the last 20 years, and about the alternative and indie rock influenced prog bands, are they really prog rock bands influenced by indie rock, or are they prog influenced indie rock bands, thats a discussion I would like to see.

progaardvark wrote: Lyon, France has an interesting avant-prog scene. I don't know if the scene has been given a name and how far back it goes. Bands in it include PoiL, ni, Le Grand Sbam, Scherzoo, Chromb!, and some others that I'm sure I'm missing.

I think the most noticable devolopment in neo-progressive is the main groups going more towards a sympho-metal-pop style. Bands like Arena en Knight Area. A lot of neoprog is borderline crossover prog and vice versa. Only IQ seems to have progressed futher in fullblown neo-progressive style with The Road of Bones and Resistance.