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    Posted: March 08 2022 at 07:07
The top half of this list is from 1987 and the bottom half is from 1997.

I had a more ambitious idea for a poll, but it wasn't coming together as well as I would have liked. Ten albums from 1987 and ten from 1997 -- most of these made my top tens of the years in Mirazake's pertinent year topics. I did include two albums not in PA for 1997 as I am very big on Portishead and Stereolab (with Potishead my fave these days is Third from 2008), and there is one soundtrack with Hellraiser, which I wanted to mention.

1987:

Art Zoyd - Berlin
Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Kitaro - The Light of the Spirit
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream
Swans - Children of God
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive
Thinking Plague - Moonsongs
Voivod - Killing Technology
Christopher Young - Hellraiser

1997:

Art Zoyd - Häxan
Björk - Homogenic
Current 93 - Horsey
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞
Höyry-Kone - Huono Parturi
Portishead - Portishead
Radiohead - OK Computer
Stereolab - Dots and Loops
Tipographica - Floating Opera
Robert Wyatt - Shleep

I had toyed with enabling multiple votes (choosing one for each year for instance), but instead people can list all their favourites on the list in a post. Additionally, people can mention other 1987 and 1997 studio album favourites that are not on the list. It would be a tough choice for me to choose just one or a few on the list. I'm guessing that Marillion will get the most votes and it won't be a tough choice for various people. I figured that if I did one per year, then there would be those that only felt comfortable voting for one album -- 1997 here is somewhat more representative of my tastes than 1987 as I opted to include a few albums that weren't in my top ten for 1987. Feel free to vote even if you only know one album in the poll as it is not a contest. Comments on your choice are appreciated.

If I had to choose one now from 1987, then it would be Children of God as I have been very into that of late. 1997 would be harder still, but I likely would opt for Stereolab's Dots and Loops in the end.
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Edit: For some reason I didn't actually notice that there was a poll at the beginning:). Well, my vote would go to one of the two first from 1987 - or the first 1997 from my own list - which are all included in your poll I tried linking to full Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene-album (on Vimeo), but it doesn't work. A really wonderful, highly reccomended album.

So to make a pleasing 1987-list I had to include albums I consider to be progressive, but may not be PA-material (mostly adventrous New Wavey or New Agey stuff).

Swans - Children of God
Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene
Rabih Abou-Khalil - Between Dusk and Dawn
Danielle Dax - Inky Bloaters

Elicoide - Elicoide
Voivod - Killing Technology
Thinking Plague - Moonsongs
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive
Art Zoyd - Berlin

Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.

Stereolab - Dots and Loops
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞
Ween - The Mollusk
Radiohead - OK Computer
Arcana - Arc of the Testimony
Portishead - Portishead
Robert Wyatt - Shleep
Tangle Edge - Tarka
Art Zoyd - Häxan
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy

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Edited by Saperlipopette! - March 08 2022 at 07:59
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Marillion gets the nod, with Dead Can Dance running 2nd.
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Marillion - Clutching at Straws.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Edit: For some reason I didn't actually notice that there was a poll at the beginning:). Well, my vote would go to one of the two first from 1987 - or the first 1997 from my own list - which are all included in your poll I tried linking to full Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene-album (on Vimeo), but it doesn't work. A really wonderful, highly reccomended album.

So to make a pleasing 1987-list I had to include albums I consider to be progressive, but may not be PA-material (mostly adventrous New Wavey or New Agey stuff).

Swans - Children of God
Dead Can Dance - Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Roberto Laneri - Anadyomene
Rabih Abou-Khalil - Between Dusk and Dawn
Danielle Dax - Inky Bloaters

Elicoide - Elicoide
Voivod - Killing Technology
Thinking Plague - Moonsongs
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive
Art Zoyd - Berlin

Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.

Here, Here! So why aren't they in the PA database? 
They're even referenced in the definition of Post Rock on the Post Rock/Math Rock page!!!

Stereolab - Dots and Loops
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - F♯A♯∞
Ween - The Mollusk
Radiohead - OK Computer
Arcana - Arc of the Testimony
Portishead - Portishead
Robert Wyatt - Shleep
Tangle Edge - Tarka
Art Zoyd - Häxan
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy

Not unlike your 10x2-picks
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:12
These are two of the best Art Zoyd albums, and as such, somewhat boringly, I'd list them as number 1 and 2 in this poll, Haxan first (just about).
Further favourites: David Sylvian, Dead Can Dance, Swans, Thinking Plague, Bjork, GSYBE, Radiohead and Robert Wyatt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2022 at 09:46
I love most of these albums, and I would say that those two Art Zoyd albums have been my traditional faves of their respective years. I gave the Swans a vote.

As for the issue of Stereolab, and I think this came up before, to me it is a kind of Crossover / Prog Related band, which obviously has been influenced by Krautrock such as Can and Neu! To know why it is not in PA, one would have to research (do searches to look through the history). I don't care if it's in or not as that has no effect on my enjoyment and I am not much a of a reviewer. Also, Pram, Broadcast and Stereolab (especially with Third) are related to me, and are as relevant as say Björk - is and there are stylistic overlaps with Swans and Radiohead material. They all have kinds of Crossover qualities to me.

Often something is or isn't included because of the quality of the suggestion threads, the general interest of PA forum members, the team members at the time and so on. Had I known Stereolab 14 or so years ago when I was making lots of suggestions, then I might have made a topic on it ad tried to convince people of its merits, but I put it more in the art pop/ indie pop realm than Prog Rock. Musically, I do put under a greater sort of prog umbrella, but its not something that I would want to suggest to PA or really offer my support for. I love Stereolab albums, and again, I won't enjoy the band more if it is in the archives, and I can talk about in the forums if it is or isn't included.
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Mr. Sirius – Barren Dream. A classic!
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Shleep for me.

Another Stereolab fan here. Dots and Loops is a collaboration with Tortoise that I particularly like, although I don't think that their Krautrock/easy listening mash up really fits in to PA.
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Höyry-Kone followed by GYBE. 
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Of these, David Sylvian.
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Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!
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David  Sylvian- Secrets of the Beehive-  A MASTERPIECE ! For me his last great album before the music started a measured decline. Of course his work with Fripp, Gunn, Mastelotto- the Fripp and Sylvian release was equally mind blowing.
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Tough call. 

Berlin, Marillion, Thinking Plague, and Godspeed, all are legitimate contenders. 

I'll go with TP this time. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Radiohead for sure. So much fun when they were being compared to Yes, Genesis and Floyd in some magazines. HAH!



Anyway, I think I have to go with Haxan here. One of my favorite AZ's. Not actually familiar with Berlin. Moonsongs is ok. Prefer the remix on the later versions of In this Life


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Of the list, I'll have to go with Godspeed's F#A#... absolute masterpiece.

I guess I'll take a crack at my own 1987 and 1997 lists. I'm assuming we don't have to use strictly PA bands/artists, right? Because I'll definitely be including some stuff that's not on the site.
 
1987 (in no order):

Voivod - Killing Technology
Prince - Sign O' the Times
Anthrax - Among the Living
Marillion - Clutching at Straws
Michael Jackson - Bad
Rush - Hold Your Fire
Testament - The Legacy
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Candlemass - Nightfall
King Diamond - Abigail 

1997 (again, in no order):

Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F♯ A♯ ∞
Bjork - Homogenic
Radiohead - OK Computer
Portishead - Dummy
Incubus - SCIENCE
Opeth - Morningrise
Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine: Biomech
Foo Fighters - The Colour and the Shape
Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope
Children of Bodom - Something Wild

And a few honorable mentions for 1997, because it's one of my favorite years in music:

Deftones - Around the Fur
Enya - Paint the Sky with Stars
Blur - Blur
Shania Twain - Come On Over (laugh all you want, but don't knock it until you try it LOL)
Hammerfall - Glory to the Brave
Voivod - Phobos
Stratovarius - Visions
Helmet - Aftertaste
Threshold - Extinct Instinct 
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:


Similar things could be said about my 1997-list + Stereolab is the ultimate progressive rock band to my ears.

Here, Here! So why aren't they in the PA database? 
They're even referenced in the definition of Post Rock on the Post Rock/Math Rock page!!!

I should have added "for it's era" after "the ultimate progressive rock band". Because that was what I actually meant. Listening to all their albums from 1993's Peng! & Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements and well into the 00's - no other band that I can think of took what progressive rock once was - and pushed it forward into the future quite like them. At least not with an actual listening audience going to their concerts and buying their albums. Certainly moreso than the PA-celebrated bands Anglagard and Anekdoten (I quite like them both still). Like Logan, it's not a big issue for me that they are not on PA, and I'm sure the band themselves couldn't care less.

I don't mind good, retro-sounding progrock at all (it's obviously made out of love for the music), and there's very little I would have enjoyed more than being in a band that sounded like we made 1970's/1980's Giallo-scores for Dario Argento and Lucio Fulci. But as a listener I usually find myself more intrigued by "progressive" rather than "prog".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Necrotica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2022 at 22:37
Yeah, I'm a little surprised as well that Stereolab aren't on here. They'd make a good inclusion for post/math or crossover prog... sadly, I'm not a part of either of those teams LOL

BUT, maybe I can suggest them to those teams and see what happens Smile
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