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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10751 |
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putin's army attacks one of the largest open markets in East Europe, Barabashovo in Charkiv. The destruction is truly hellish.
https://t.me/nexta_live/22216 Edited by Easy Money - March 17 2022 at 19:20 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65991 |
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Little b a s t a r d s . |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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tszirmay ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6679 |
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https://fortune.com/2022/03/02/viktor-yanukovych-yanukovich-putin-put-back-in-power-ukraine-russia/
The man in waiting......ugh
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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NutterAlert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
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Chomsky, Foucault, etc diatribes being wheeled out, ![]() How about the prescient prog philosopher Gregory Stuart Lake's view of Kiev (Kiyv) from the early 70s... (apologies for a musical interlude on this political forum) Come forth, from love's fire Born in life's fire Born in life's fire Come forth, from love's fire In the burning, of our yearning For life to be And in pain there must be gain New life! Stirring in, salty streams And dark hidden seams Where the fossil sun gleams They were, sent from the gates Ride the tides of fate Ride the tides of fate They were, sent from the gates In the burning all are yearning For life to be There's no end to my life No beginning to my death Death is life |
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10751 |
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10751 |
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Re Nutter: I was already working on learning the entire piano version of "Pictures ...". When puitin launched his invasion I decided to go to the last section of the piece, which is of course "The City Gates" (Kyiv). Just a way of paying tribute, plus I am sending money to help provide medical supplies.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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An interview with Igor Sidorenko (PA’s Prog-jester).
A very worthwhile read. 💙💛🇺🇦💙💛 |
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1017 |
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Well, yes, as of now I am still alive and well and living in Ukraine. Honestly, I am tired of posting. I see no much sense in it. Everyone of us has own views and we are too adult and too experienced to be able to change our views. I may only say (or rather repeat) that the seeds of the current conflict were sown quite in February 2014. In February 2014 Russia was unprepared for the invasion into Ukraine, they had Sochi Olympic Games. They were going to host the soccer World Cup in 2018, too. Now that they've hosted it all, participated in the recent Olympics, they are ready to fight. This is the war that should have happened in February-March 2014. For PR and organisational reasons, Russia was not ready for such war earlier.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10751 |
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^ What city are you in?
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1017 |
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Just to post something more relaxing and at the same time informative. Not all of us here in the thread are aware of the Russian/Ukrainian x sound/letter issue. Russian sound (and the corresponding letter of) x is traditionally represented in English texts as kh (sometimes as ch). Certainly, most native English speakers pronounce it as k. But it is not k and have never been. It is an English h pronounced in the position of the tongue that is used for pronouncing the sound k. English h is more light-hearted, as it were. Just a puff of air, as it were. Slavic h sounds more... solid, less light-hearted. This is actually, the same sound as Spanish j, German ch, modern Polish h. It is the same sound as CLASSIC Scottish ch in the words like loch. Younger Scots tend to pronounce it as just k. But listen to the older Scots, truer Scots: ![]() So, just for the sake of correctness and interest, the city's name in Ukrainian Cyrillic is XAPKIB - [that-Scottish-ch]arkiv. Hope, I have brought some fun and info to the thread.
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1017 |
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I'm not sure it is of any necessity to mention that now, honestly. Not in Kiev or Kharkiv, though. Not far from Kiev, southwards.
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I have noticed on the radio it is more often than not pronounced ‘harkiv, though perhaps the “c” in the Scottish ch is simply lost. I like to pronounce loch in the Scottish manner, simply because I like the sound, but I can understand why it’s hard for some to pronounce when it’s not a natural sound in their normal language. |
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This thread provides many resources for helping the victims of the invasion.
http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&title=support-ukraine |
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Woon Deadn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2010 Location: P Status: Offline Points: 1017 |
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An average old enough native Russian or Ukrainian speaker used to always transliterate, transcribe Rus/Ukr x as h in English. For us, for me x is simply h. Not always so with the opposite direction of translation. Thus, George Harrison is Dzhordzh [X]arrison in Russian, but the American sci-fi writer Harry Harrison is, for some unknown reason, Garri Garrison in Russian. Also, Hollywood is Gollivud, Harry Potter is Garri Potter. For the Russian eyes and ears, all of the known German Nazi authorities had surnames starting with G: Gitler, Gebbels, Gimmler, Gering... Knowing that the Russian word for sh*t (govno - direct relative of the word Govinda, by the way) also starts with g, it was very symbolic for the Soviet people that all the Nazi leaders are basically one big G or a heap of capital G's. Russian speakers also traditionally differentiate between the i and y letters radically. There are two distinct sounds/letters of the i-family so to say in Russian: the one for short ee and the one for ih. In Polish they have the respective letters of i and y for them. Most Russian speakers (even if they are not familiar with the respective Polish alphabet's concept) traditionally perceive the English i and y as representing these Russian ee and ih sounds respectively. Perhaps because of its more massive, thicker appearance, we traditionally perceive the English letter y as representing rather the ih sound, even in English texts. It is also how we intuitively tend to write Russian words in English letters: for example, bliny (crepes), by which we imply blee-NIH, although foreigners naturally used to feel no difference between their i's and y's, therefore they usually pronounce it as blee-NEE.
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Yes, a nice interview. Strength and love to him and all from here in West Wales.
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Hi, It's the first time I see you. What would you do in place of Zelenskij?
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Mao Valpiana...
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As Valpaiana mentions anti-fascists from the Resistance, I have in mind that Hitler was not stopped by non-violence, and neither by opponents in Germany. Sure, Putin is not Hitler, however finding a peaceful solution on the basis of non-violence and disarmament needs to assume/trust that the other side respects non-violence rather than being encouraged to use violence against those who don't effectively defend themselves. It's hard to have that trust in Putin! Yesterday I read this: It seems Putin demands disarmament of the Ukraine (obviously without offering anything of that kind for Russia). This does not seem acceptable to me, as it essentially means that he wants to have a state of affairs that makes it easier for the Russians to invade another time (keep in mind that Putin said that the Ukraine doesn't have the right to exist as an independent nation).
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Hi, Lorenzo. It seems, I have never talked to you personally in this thread (or anywhere else, just for the record ![]() So, trying to pick the correct words, I can answer this way: Mr. Zelensky has little experience of ruling the country, he is an actor deep inside his mind. He is behaving like an actor. He probably imagines himself a character in the patriotic movie, he feels like that. He gave a speech like Chaplin's character in The Great Dictator. He loves movies, he loves classic Soviet movies. He has a charming wife. Both he and his wife are evidently educated persons, they are University graduates. What would, say, Adriano Celentano or Louis De Funes do in such a situation we're talking about? Since they were actors, they would have probably played some kind of cinematic role in the real life. The role according to what they had watched, read, played themselves before. You see, the current situation is very helpful for Mr. Zelensky's political career. Quite like all of his predecessors in Ukraine, he was seen as a prodigy at the time of elections, then since two months later and on he was continuously condemned by both sides of the political spectrum. The anti-Russian part of Ukrainian society constantly blamed him for the absence of directly anti-Russian activities, the pro-Russian part of Ukrainian voters constantly blamed him for flirting with Europe and the USA. His ratings of popularity were extremely low at best. Here, suddenly he is becoming one of the greatest heroes in the country, and beyond. The current situation is very useful for his further political career. He will definitely become the next president of Ukraine - if the country survives as a sovereign entity. What would I do, you're asking? First of all, I am very different from him. I have never been a big fan of his troupe's comedy show. Their humour was very far from what Monty Python did... Principally far. (I'm not even saying that their show made a few - at least, four - openly homophobic sketches, hinting at the bullying of male gays. Also, btw, in one of his sketches like ten-twelve years ago he told from the stage that Ukraine should not join NATO...) I am a very different person. I don't think I would have ever liked the idea of participating in the Presidential elections in Ukraine as the candidate. I have never participated in them even as the voter, after all. I suppose, Mr. Zelensky is much more naive than me, much more idealistic than me. Again, I can suppose his favourite Chaplin's movie is indeed The Great Dictator - mine is Modern Times, The Great Dictator is too artificially elongated as for me, too theatrical. Mr. Zelensky is the man of theatre, by his nature, I believe. I am a real life man, man of the comedy movies. I prefer comedies only. I don't like theatre plays. I don't believe in theatre or classical music. I believe only in parody movies, speaking of cinematography. Second, I like to tell, to explain. I would have definitely published a book or four or more - at least, in Russian - where I would have described my view of the world, and everything else. Unlike many other politicians who publish something, I would have written all those texts myself and only myself, basing it on my personal experience. I would have promoted my books, my views all over the country. Since it was written in Russian, I would have given (maybe even for free) those my works to the neighbouring countries where pretty everybody can read Russian texts. The materialist ideals are promoted by selling and consumption, the hardly-material ideals are promoted by permanent talking and reading. Whether we like Lenin or Stalin, their numerous volumes of works helped in promoting their ideals incomparably greater than one book by Hitler. Third, I think that the man in his late 30s and on, should already have firm beliefs. I haven't observed any adamant set of emerald beliefs in Mr. Zelensky. Now as we have a war and a martial law, I certainly see them - but before that I haven't seen them in that brave man. I believe that Mr. Zelensky was a man with really good intentions, really hoping to make his country's people's lives better. However, the country that he has got is very complex, and he was not that complex for ruling it. He hadn't got that schizophrenic, Pythonesque string inside the harp of his brains and heart along with the comprehension of the necessity to talk and write on his views constantly. He wasn't prepared for such a complex work. Now, hopefully, everything gets fine, ends nice - he is learning how to deal with it all.
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