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^Thanks! The Billy Thorpe track doesn't play for me. Is this the same version of the song?
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^Thanks! The Billy Thorpe track doesn't play for me. Is this the same version of the song?

 
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Got some time to run through all the suggestions put up so far, so here are some of my thoughts...

Greg: As you know, I love Air and know Cherry Blossom Girl very well, but I also like it very much. I discover Electrelane here and although it sounds interesting, upon first listen I do prefer Air. Will give it another listen.

Eli: Two tracks in a genre I'm not fond of, but both have something very good and interesting in them. Stone Sour are musically maybe a bit more traditional hard rock/heavy metal, but it sounds quite good and very solid. It's a pity (imho) that the singer feels the need to growl, because he has a great voice, when he's singing. But I prefer Om's State of Non-Return; the music sounds much more original to my ears, although I don't like the voice...

Christian: Oh yes, back to our youth... I wasn't much into Level 42 back then (nor funk in general), but didn't dislike it either. Nowadays I appreciate this much more than in 1985. This is a great song indeed. I don't think I ever heard anything by Asmus Tietchens, but I like this - not for every moment of the day, but it is quite fascinating to listen to.

Greg: I always remain a bit underwhelmed by Eels. Beautiful Freak is not an unpleasant listen, but it doesn't compete with the Fishmans track. You presented this one in one of your polls and I think I voted for it then. Great listen again.

George: Well, the "grungy Britpop sounding like..." never really impressed me and nor does this Feeder track; nice, but also rather forgettable to my ears. Especially against this Bill Laswell track (but you probably expected that from me), this one is musically much more interesting for me.

Mila: Nice to see you join in again! I heard a couple of tracks by Dans Dans coming by on FIP radio, these last years. I liked what I heard but never explored more of their music. This track too is great, a wonderful listen. Nicole Mitchell’s Black Earth Ensemble is also a good listen, but it fascinates me much less than Dans Dans.

Lorenzo: Even Blur didn't change my stance on "grungy Britpop", so I never really explored their albums. This track however is quite intriguing and a great listen. I understand you regarding Cristina Donā... I think the Bolero is a bit overused in modern day music, but as such this is quite an intresting track, a great groove and tension in it - wonderful.

Mila: Oh yes, I think I prefer the more experimental stuff. With De-Phazz we're much into the dance/electro style that is not much for me. The Avalanches are much in similar territory to my ears, but I find this track more interesting (but still not fan of that house beat). Funny over-the-top  clip though!



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Logan:

two very ethereal pop songs. 

The first is more classical, and has a nice sound - but it is a bit monotone.

The second has more bite, scratchy singing, more pathos but I really don't like the almost electronic sound.

I couldn't tell you which one I prefer.

Bardberic:

The first song is a very sustained and long heavy metal piece, almost exhausting, but overall quite melodic. It's not my cup of tea.

The second is a more ambitious song, with great attention to the arrangements, which reaches a fine climax in the part with the strings (long live Jiddu Krishnamurti!). I definitely like it better.

Suitkees:

The first song is a mini-suite that starts as a hard rock instrumental piece with a very noisy guitar, then comes the prog part and finally the sung melodic part, then the guitar ride returns. Interesting song, very dilated

The second is a classical tango-style song, very lively, at times dissonant, definitely symphonic in its development, very good especially in the syncopated progression part, this is a strong contender.




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Lewian:

Level 42: I remember them well, typical eighties music but more refined, a jazz-soul in the style of Steve Winwood but more commercial (the singer has not the Winwood's voice, but it is nice to see how he plays the bass).

Asmus T.:
I don't know them, here Christian presents us a noisy mini-suite, cavernous but synthetic, atonal, sometimes with industrial sounds, the voice comes in as an additional decorative noise, it has nothing of the singing. The whole track goes on with these noises trying to be hypnotic: there is no real development and there is no purely musical part, a bit like listening to a purely twelve-tone piece. There is only an experimental search for sound, a search conducted according to purely formal, non-musical values. It doesn't convince me.

A very enjoyable first song, which could win the public's grand prize, and a second song that is not very enjoyable, but not particularly difficult, if anything monotonous, which could win the critics' prize.
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Logan: 1996

I know EELS very well, I especially love the first two albums, and this is the title song of the first, in the style of E: a dreamy nursery rhyme, it is apparently naive but actually very sophisticated pop.

The second song features an interesting 'rhythmic piano' that plays the same phrase from beginning to end: it is a mini-suite that is a cross between ambient - prog music and an electronic jam with bits of jazz.
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George: Quite a schizophrenic song, it's true that it reminds one of Smashing Pumpkins'songs, overall I prefer the earlier part with the slower rhythm.


The second song is very, very meditative, indeed a dilated piece even for an ambient piece! The problem, for me, here is that there is only percussion, no melody.

Kees:

Nena... hmmm I'd sayis it's an eighties guilty pleasure, .... but she, the singer, wow, what a woman!

The second track, instrumental, is nice but too short

Mila:

first instrumental piece, noisy, has some good moments both in pathos and sound, it's a pity the lack of development. 

The second piece is also instrumental, an ethno-jazz? The sound of the flute is always nice, but actually I would have been interested to hear the percussion instruments better. More jazz (in the sense of free) than the previous one, but also less convincing.

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I had been busy and away from PA so just getting back. How about nominations? Maybe by Tuesday or Wednesday to give a few more days for anyone new. And then open the poll before next weekend so people can listen and vote.
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My nominated pairing will be
Then from 1996: Eels - "Beautiful Freak"
Now from 1996: Fishmans - "Long Season Part 5"

I choose that yearly pairing because of the Fishman's track particularly, which I find wonderful. It also is an album that I am surprised not to have listened to much sooner than I did. The similar opening and closing tracks parts one and five are my favourites from the Long Season album, much as with another favourite album of mine, Serge Gainsbourg's Histoire de Melody Nelson and actually quite a few albums.

Thanks for the comments on the tracks, Keys and Lorenzo. I tried to do it, but it doesn't come easy to me, and gave up.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I had been busy and away from PA so just getting back. How about nominations? Maybe by Tuesday or Wednesday to give a few more days for anyone new. And then open the poll before next weekend so people can listen and vote.

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Won't be much available during the week, so I'll give my nomination now: my 1995 pair.
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Thanks for the comments already posted! I have a pretty heavy workload these days so was quieter. As you'd probably expect, I nominate the two tracks that I had earlier suggested.
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I nominate:

Dans Dans: Au hasard



Schneeweiss & Rosenrot: Miss Palsy


Release dates: April 2013 / Oct 2012

I will stick to the 1st. The 2nd is new.

Lucia Cadotsch, a Swiss artist came to my mind who is worth instroducing. This is her first project where she collaborated with three collegues she had met during her studies in Berlin. They have all a jazz background but here they experimented by including synths etc.- I have known Lucia for some time but wasn't aware of this project.

Thanks to all who have commented so far. I will do so as soon as the voting has started.



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I posted just two songs, so obviously, that will be my nomination. Tongue
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I had been busy and away from PA so just getting back. How about nominations? Maybe by Tuesday or Wednesday to give a few more days for anyone new. And then open the poll before next weekend so people can listen and vote.
George, if you are busy atm I can take over. It's time to bring this poll to an end, I think.


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I had been busy and away from PA so just getting back. How about nominations? Maybe by Tuesday or Wednesday to give a few more days for anyone new. And then open the poll before next weekend so people can listen and vote.
George, if you are busy atm I can take over. It's time to bring this poll to an end, I think.

Definitely busy. 

Thanks for the offer Mila.  I did put up the tracks into the poll. If you want to 'wrangle' people into voting, you are more than welcome to take over to get this done.

I realized as I did put in the tracks, I don't know which year I prophesy disaster would like. I put up his 1972 choices but can change those to 1976 if he chimes n.

Straightforward voting. Vote for 3. Doesn't have to be paired. Comment if you like.
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I'm actually quite happy about the slow pacing of this.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I realized as I did put in the tracks, I don't know which year I prophesy disaster would like. I put up his 1972 choices but can change those to 1976 if he chimes n.
 
The 1972 tracks are fine. The other two tracks from 1976 were an afterthought.
 
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George, dont forget my songs!
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

George, dont forget my songs!

Sorry, Lorenzo!

I thought this might happen. Your songs are in the poll now!
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