Dream Theater Poll

most progressive moments,

images and words, scenes from a memory, six degrees of inner turbulence, awake and train of thought.

six degrees has a 42 minute long suite.
all their albums have constant time changes, lengthy pieces and most have suites,

falling into infinity has a suite at the end as well as scenes from a memory being split into 2 acts. this is also a concept album which is the most prog album. train of thought is constant prog metal. awake has a suite called a mind beside itself that consists of erotomania, voices and the silent man.

if you still dont like any of that then check out their live dvds cos they r amazing live.

Certif1ed wrote: If "Images and Words" is among DT's most progressive moments, then that confirms my belief that they really don't seem to be a prog band, as there is no discernable prog on that album. It takes more than time changes, lengthy pieces and suites to be prog - or we'd have jazz and classical albums in the archives.

Jazz is a form of music, classic is a form of music and prog rock is a form of rock and roll...Dream Theatre falls into the catagory of rock-n-roll while the above mentioned don't. That is why they are not in the archives. Dream Theatre?....I don't know...I have only 1 lp....I need more material to make up my mind on them.

Progressive rock is a sub genre to rock-n-roll. Elvis doesn't belong on it because he pure rock. Classical music and Jazz isn't rock.

gdub411 wrote: Progressive rock is a sub genre to rock-n-roll. Elvis doesn't belong on it because he pure rock. Classical music and Jazz isn't rock.

No kidding...

So why Dream Theater and not Metallica, Diamond Head, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Budgie, Mercyful Fate, Kreator, Dark Angel or a thousand other progressive  (small "p") rock bands?

Certif1ed wrote: So why Dream Theater and not Metallica, Diamond Head, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Budgie, Mercyful Fate, Kreator, Dark Angel or a thousand other progressive  (small "p") rock bands?

actually i was wondering about led zeppelin and deep purple too

anyways, i just borrowed a couple of DT albums from my dad and i've listened to "Images and Words" and "Awake", but it sounds pretty prog to me.

i also watched a live dvd and it was seriously amazing. It's simply frustrating to watch such talented musicians
even though it's frustrating, i still voted yes. i guess frustrating can be cool at times
 

Edited by Kingkay

Dream Theater and prog metal in general is not my cup of tea (or liqueur as we say in Sweden).

Swinton MCR wrote: Come on certified - Have you heard "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" - How can an epic that starts like The Enid and then develops through Rush/Yes type passages not be deemed progressive ?? - even the sustain right at the end is sort of Floydsy....It's definately more progressive than anything Deep Purple did !!!

Thanks - that's the kind of answer I'm looking for.

I stated above that I've only heard "Images and Words", because I've been told that it's one of DT's proggiest albums.

I will check out "Six Degrees..." as soon as I can get a copy - but it will probably take me a few weeks or even months before I attempt to review it, as I realise that any kind of prog music requires a deal of "living with".

Thanks for the recommendation - as a massive Enid fan I'm looking forward to it!

In response to my 'narrow-minded' view of metal, some asked how much I've listened to. Too much, I started out with Motorhead, took in all the classics along the way and sneaked off for a taste of Metallica et al - then I became an adult

sorry, it's just not my taste anymore - regardless of the 'intensity' 'superior musicianship' 'emotion' I just find it laughable Spinal Tap nonsense (not that certain aspects of classic prog aren't similarly Tap-ish - 'a flower?')

To me it's just juvenile, teen angst-ridden, overbearing, overstated bellowing. And really, really takes itself way too seriously.

Lighten up prog-matallers, adolescent acne does clear up!!!

 

Ah now he could sing - his version of Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter kicked ass!!!

Lunarscape wrote: Why in the first place label heavy metal bands as progressive metal ? Uriah Heep, Deep Purple were heavy metal bands with guitars in the straight blues lanes and backed by heavy Hammond organ tunes. Both Hensley and Lord got world wide recognition as hammond players. Why the prog label....DT is just another band , non prog, heavy metal...as Metallica. The band that comes closest to progressive rock is Queensryche... ________ Lunar

Agreed, as I have gathered from this thread and poll DT is a stepingstone band for metal fans to get into prog.  I will never see DT as a true prog group at all.  The best definition of prog I have ever seen is located here http://www.kinesiscd.com/philosophy.htm.  This is the Kinesis label's defintion and I do not think that DT embrases it.  I have probably opened up a whole new can of worms.  sorry