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floyd4 
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 Topic: Is there 'Goth Prog'?Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:12 |
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I know goth is very punk-esq, but I'm wondering if there's some bands that focus on complex and prog-y but dark subject matter.
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AZF
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:19 |
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Van Der Graff Generator on The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other.
This assumes Goth has saxophonists! |
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Modrigue
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:39 |
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I recommend Alejandro Matos' "Persona", a nice mix of dark heavy prog à la King Crimson and 80's gothic rock / cold wave:
https://alejandromatos.bandcamp.com/album/persona |
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Kepler62
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:43 |
 Not Goth but looks like Goth.
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Mcg817
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 16:03 |
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There is! Devil Doll a band from the 80's, who made hour long tracks that were a gothic, progressive rock operas, with some surprisingly good heavy moments.
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Mcg817
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 16:04 |
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https://youtu.be/-JrXn8dyc1s
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micky
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 17:17 |
first thing that popped into my mind.. though what do I know... I wouldn't know a Visi from a Goth. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Manuel
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 19:18 |
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I don't know if it counts, but Italian band Goblin has some very dark music, since they mostly wrote scores for horror films.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 20:27 |
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I would say some of the stuff by the Cure would qualify. There are probably other bands who aren't typically considered prog who would qualify also.
I've never really thought of VDGG as gothic prog or even really all that gothicky(sp?). I suppose some of their stuff could qualify. As for Devil Doll I haven't heard them. I do know they only had one album in the eighties though. They mostly recorded in the nineties.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 20:49 |
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I agree with the Devil Doll suggestion as that is the most gothic prog rock suggestion i can think of. However if you can stand to up the intensity into the metal world then there are more options. I personally love Vauxdvihl, OXXO XOOX (the vowls all have umlauts) as well as Moonsorrow, Tiamat and Lake Of Tears.
Here's a whole list of prog goth metal bands in fact |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 21:13 |
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I'm pretty sure there are a heap of prog metal bands influenced by Type O Negative and Paradise Lost
Green Carnation comes to mind: (and their hour long prog masterpiece) Edited by Thatfabulousalien - February 19 2017 at 21:15 |
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Tapfret
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 22:04 |
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octopus-4
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 23:43 |
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Cambus741
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 01:37 |
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Current 93 and Death in June spring to mind.
All the Pretty Little horses by Current 93 is a masterpiece |
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Patient
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 11:51 |
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If we're talking purely about dark subject matter, then VdGG's 70s albums are definitely the way to go, and Peter Hammill's solo albums, although few of them are actually prog - Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night, In Camera, The Silent Corner and the Empty stage - if you're looking for a purely "prog" sound. I wouldn't call any of it "goth" though, except for one song: https://youtu.be/CW7NC9V0XAY.
If we're talking about a "gothic" sound, then I can recommend Peter Hammill's solo album-opera The Fall of the House of Usher (if you check it out, make sure it's the "Deconstructed and Rebuilt" version). It's not prog, but it's based on Edgar Allan Poe and definitely very gothic. |
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 12:42 |
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VDGG on ocassion spring to mind...
However, I would recommend the album Elyzium by Fields of the Nephilim has some very atmospheric and quite proggy leanings IMO. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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zravkapt
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:10 |
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This is kinda gothy and proggy at the same time:
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Kepler62
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:17 |
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doompaul
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:27 |
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Why are we sleeping? by Soft Machine has a very goth feel to it.
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Mascodagama
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:30 |
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Early recordings by The Red Masque are way goth, Good stuff too.
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