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Topic: Best and Worst of DT
Posted: June 19 2006 at 12:55

Dream Theater is a great group of musicians

they have had good moments and bad

give me what you think is their best and worst moments and why

Best- Awake (Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Erotomania)

In my opinion the most prog DT album

Worst- Octovarium

Lost the progressive favor they once had, just doesnt do it for me

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 12:57

Best moment- John Myung tackles James LaBrie onstage for fifty bucks.

Worst moment- in my opinion they've never had one.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:00

AtLossForWords wrote:

Best moment- John Myung tackles James LaBrie onstage for fifty bucks.

Worst moment- in my opinion they've never had one.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:00

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:02

hanselnmetal wrote:

Best- Awake (Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Erotomania)

I agree with that.

I still think their worst is Falling Into Infinity
It's the only DT album with which I find myself consistently skipping songs ("Anna Lee" and "The Hollow Years" just make me cringe)

Edited by Empathy - June 19 2006 at 13:02

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:05

AtLossForWords wrote:

Best moment- John Myung tackles James LaBrie onstage for fifty bucks.

Worst moment- in my opinion they've never had one.

Your nickname just covers sth negative for D.T., and positive for its genre rivals i guess.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:06

hanselnmetal wrote:

Dream Theater is a great group of musicians

they have had good moments and bad

give me what you think is their best and worst moments and why

Best- Awake (Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Erotomania)

In my opinion the most prog DT album

Worst- Octovarium

Lost the progressive favor they once had, just doesnt do it for me

Agreed ... but Octavarium is not THAT bad. A decent 3 star album!

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:08

Best Moment - Images and Words or Awake

Worst Moment - I walk beside you or you not me

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:09

Best Moment: Dream Theater with Kevin Moore (namely Awake).

Worst Moment: Dream Theater without Kevin Moore (6DoIT, FII, ToT, eek)

Edited by Equality 7-2521 - June 19 2006 at 13:52

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:09

Empathy wrote:

hanselnmetal wrote:

Best- Awake (Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Erotomania)

Falling into infinity might have been one of DT's worst prog albums, but ablums like six degrees of inner turbulence and octovarium i do not consider true prog and i think should take the worst DT album prize

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:22

Empathy wrote:

hanselnmetal wrote:

Best- Awake (Caught in a Web, The Mirror, Erotomania)

That's the only problem I have with the album and the only bad momments, but I'll still give the album 3 stars. How can I say no to Trial of Tears, New Millennium, Hells Kitchen, Peruvian Skies ?

the best momment of DT for me may be either Images and words (metropolis, wait for sleep, learning to live and others) or Scenes from a memory (Home, Beyond this life, Finally free and others)

Edited by chamberry - June 19 2006 at 13:23

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:23

Best Moments: Awake and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. The songs on the first disc of Six Degrees are awesome (The Great Debate). As well as the first song on A Change of Seasons, what a great song.

Worst Moments: Train of Thought, it contains less memorable moments than any other album by DT before.

I wouldn't put Falling Into Infinity into the "worst moment" list at all, some songs on that album are great, New Millenium, Hell's Kitchen and Trial of Tears, at least those are great, but no, still not one of their best.

The rest of their stuff is good but not the BEST.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:24

I really like FiI ... I don't mind one or two filler tracks (or three ... there's also Anna Lee), considering that the playtime is nearly 80 minutes.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:29

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Best Moment: Dream Theater with Kevin Moore (namely Awake).

Worst Moment: Dream Theater without Jordan Rudess (6DoIT, FII, ToT, eek)

by ToT do you mean train of thought, because jordan rudess was on the line-up for train of thought

Line-up

- James LaBrie / vocals
- John Petrucci / guitar
- Jordan Rudess / keyboards
- John Myung / bass
- Mike Portnoy / drums and percussion

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:30

My two favorite Dream Theater albums are Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and Awake. The two are argueably Dream Theater's most creative endeavours. The epic SDoIt is as balanced as it is ambitious with another disc of Dream Theater's most experimental matierial.

I don't understand the negativity towards Falling Into Infinity. I think it's actually one of Dream Theater's most progressive album, probably more progressive than Images and Words (which has much more of a pop vibe). Falling Into Infinity has the most interesting stucture of any Dream Theater album excluding Six Degrees and Scenes From a Memory. The only song that I really feel is a filler is You Not Me. Anna Lee is the ballad intro to Trial of Tears the same way Wait For Sleep is for Learning to Live. One is argueably better than the other, but Anna Lee isn't simply a filler track.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:32

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My two favorite Dream Theater albums are Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and Awake. The two are argueably Dream Theater's most creative endeavours. The epic SDoIt is as balanced as it is ambitious with another disc of Dream Theater's most experimental matierial.

i agree with the falling into infinity statement

Edited by hanselnmetal - June 19 2006 at 13:32

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:41

Best Moment: Jordan Rudess joins Dream Theater leading to the creation of Scenes From a Memory (The best DT album)/ Images and Words is released and redefines prog-metal's sound.

Worst Moment: Kevin Moore leaves the band for creative differences and DT gets stuck with Derek Sherinian (who is pretty good in his own right) instead of Jordan Rudess (The first choice for a replacement).

Edited by Jeff Schu - June 19 2006 at 13:43

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:53

hanselnmetal wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Best Moment: Dream Theater with Kevin Moore (namely Awake).

Worst Moment: Dream Theater without Jordan Rudess (6DoIT, FII, ToT, eek)

by ToT do you mean train of thought, because jordan rudess was on the line-up for train of thought

Line-up

- James LaBrie / vocals
- John Petrucci / guitar
- Jordan Rudess / keyboards
- John Myung / bass
- Mike Portnoy / drums and percussion

just a question

Whoops, I meant to say DT without Kevin Moore. Fixed it now.

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:54

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

hanselnmetal wrote:

Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Best Moment: Dream Theater with Kevin Moore (namely Awake).

Worst Moment: Dream Theater without Jordan Rudess (6DoIT, FII, ToT, eek)

by ToT do you mean train of thought, because jordan rudess was on the line-up for train of thought

Line-up

- James LaBrie / vocals
- John Petrucci / guitar
- Jordan Rudess / keyboards
- John Myung / bass
- Mike Portnoy / drums and percussion

just a question

Whoops, I meant to say DT without Kevin Moore. Fixed it now.

Rudess Era DT > Moore Era DT

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Posted: June 19 2006 at 13:56

The only thing I see Dream Theater experimenting with on the first disc of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is other band's sounds (Tool, Pantera, King Crimson), and the second disc is full of Dream Theater's indulgent excess and cheese that gives them a bad name and stops people from discovering some of their genius material.

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