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NetsNJFan 
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Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
 Topic: Punkers Hate Us More...LookPosted: July 04 2005 at 01:45 |
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http://punk77.co.uk/talkpunk/viewtopic.php?t=208 discuss It's funny the punk77.co.uk forums are like our mirror reflection..... Edited by NetsNJFan |
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Gaston
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Joined: February 26 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:04 |
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Heh, I don't usually respond to these kinds of things, but I read on down that thread. Look at this gem:
"Its that age old argument - whats the point of being a brilliant musician if all that comes out is 15 minutes of tuneless self indulgent crap ? No Beatles,Elvis or the Rolling Stones was WRONG...it should have been No Clapton,Dylan or Rick Wakeman. Prog Rock was for Sloths...I am amazed this guy has got enough energy to be angry. " OK, so let me get this straight, Beatles are cool but Dylan wasn't? I don't get it. Because the Beatles - because Elvis wrote a bunch of catchy tunes that are "long lasting".... Another guy was saying earlier in the thread about longevity "Punk was a backlash against the big stadium shows and one of its fundamental characteristics was to live fast, die young, so longevity has no place in it." Morons. Then there's the whole "sloth" thing and I then have to remind myself how many prog musicians behaved like Vicious. Gosh! Idiots! Gaston Edited by Gaston |
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NetsNJFan
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Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:09 |
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yea, I've found WE are much more tolerant of Punk than they are of Prog
but that's why they are no good PUNKS 
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 229 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:17 |
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wow, they have a horrible argument, their preety much saying, prog rock is crap because they use creativity, talent, and the heads. this is halarious
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Gaston
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Joined: February 26 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:21 |
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Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm getting at. Inconsistancies in your own
pathetic little genre. I don't need some punk to tell me that 3 minute
heart attack stage shows are where it's at, because I know they're not.
I know they're not with pop and I know they're not with punk. Straight
up. I don't have to defend my personal musical preferences to a dunce,
it's really that simple.
It's not like they're original. Our guys took it back then, - they're still taking it now with the punks, but it's a rivalry the punks like to play, it's perhaps provocation. Like the guy said, it's not really talent that matters here with them, so in effect, we're playing two different ball games. Apples and Oranges. Perhaps they're just mad that the music they spawned never actually succeeded in their dream of killing prog. Gaston |
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30068 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:22 |
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One post caught my attention:
''Blinkered horses,great name for a prog band. Heard Greg Lake(of ELP infamy)on the wireless a few weeks ago.Nearly fell asleep listening to him mummbling on inanely about his glittering career, kind of says it all, pompous twat.They regularly sold out big venues...yawn, well so did Hitler and he didn't have a top forty hit either,did he ..?
The line about Hitler was amusing anyway. |
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boo boo
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Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:34 |
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thats it, im sending them a letter...hopefuly they will bash me too, because i would take it as a compliment, anyway...the civil thing to do would be to agree to disagree...or we could all regester on that forum and declare war on punk in the name of prog, which would be more fun. EDIT:im regestering now.
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BaldFriede
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Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:39 |
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Since you asked for the spelling: It's "aesthetically" (British spelling) or "esthetically" (American spelling). |
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Gaston
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Joined: February 26 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:42 |
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Right, because obviously selling out stadiums = brainwashed masses. I love how it's all "the less the better, the worse it is the better it is!!" lol, the less fans to pack the stadium, the more underground we are, the better. If they want minimalism, I wish they'd just go totally "less is more" and just become non existant. How much more could you get after that? That's gotta be like, the ultimate "more".  Gaston Edited by Gaston |
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:50 |
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I responded, but I don't think those
of you who've posted over there are gonna like what I had to say.
It being a punk forum, I got a little carried away... maybe went
a bit... overboard...
My post: You guys are all f***ing ridiculous. The punks, sl*ggin' off at something they don't understand, and the proggers, doin' the same damn thing. It's about the music, it's about the energy, it's about what it makes you feel. It'd be ignorant to claim that *either* genre being disputed here can't provide that, but it seems just about every last one of you wanks have this mindset that your preferred genre is the only genre that can be credible. And the guy who brought social classes into this... the bloody f**k are you smoking? To assign music to a particular class is just WRONG! I'm about as lower-lower-class as it gets, can barely keep petrol in my car if that. Prog's my genre of choice, but there's plenty of punk I like, and it ain't the s**t-punk the mags and rags are trying to pass off on us. Ramones, Dead Kennedys, Napalm Death, Velvet Underground, Bowie, 'sall good in my book. Instead, I propose we unite and beat the s**t out of Green Day for trying to fuse punk and prog and succeeding at neither, putting out one of the most self-indulgent, pretentious, f***ing boring albums I've heard in my life... and I own a copy of Love Beach!  You blokes don't have to agree with each other, but I hope the lot of you realize you're not changing anyone's mind. You've all got your heads stuck so far up your arses you can't hardly see the pissing contest you're participating in. An article, on a punk site, sl*gging prog? OMG HOW SHOCKING I NEVER WOULD'VE GUESSED. Sounds like a circle jerk to me. I'm glad to say that most of the reactions to the article over on the forum us proggers are comin' from aren't as closed-minded as what's trickled over here.  You guys who like Motorhead... check out Lemmy's old band Hawkwind... might be in for a surprise... |
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 229 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 02:51 |
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you just blew my mind gaston, thats exactly what they should do if they even had a clue to what they were trying to argue about.
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The Miracle
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:09 |
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C'mon guys, just leave them alone! Punks are punks and they will stay the ignorant a$$holes they are! The best thing you'll do is get them mad and cause them to invade our forum
 I hardly kept myself from registring there, but common sense stopped me... I even decided not to hatemail them, but if you think we should do that leave your suggestions in this thread. I even have a special email for that purpose: [email protected]
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boo boo
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 28 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 905 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:27 |
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http://punk77.co.uk/talkpunk/viewtopic.php?p=31186#31186 take that punks. |
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Man Overboard
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Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:28 |
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And as usual, my post of inflammatory reason goes unnoticed...
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Teaflax
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 26 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1225 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:39 |
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This - and the other thread on the same subject - contain some of the saddest excuses for arguments I've seen. It's childish territorial squabbling of the kind that does no one any good whatsoever.
You're like Wolverhampton Wanderers supporters chiding Liverpool fans, like badminton players spitting on golfers, like PC freaks dissing Mac heads, like Swedes denigrating Norwegians, like Piper flyers looking down their noses att Cessna pilots, like Ferarri tifosi laughing at McLaren followers... In short, you're just being incredibly childish.
And what does it say about you that you feel the need to justify yourself to people you obviously consider way below you? Either you don't really believe that they're that stupid and clueless, or you have some serious self-esteem issues to work through.
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Hierophant
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Joined: March 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 651 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:42 |
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Punk is garbage. I'll say it again... punk is garbage.
Punk is the equivalent of giving two eight year olds a tape recorder. They'll fill an entire cassette with farting noises and all kinds of s**t. You give two teenagers a guitar and a set drums and what do you get? A punk band. (not sure what i'm getting at) Punk will always be just an excuse, an excuse to turn out 25 50 second songs and call it an "album" and fly the flag of "simple freeform expression". Well i'm gonna dig my old kiddie fart sound tapes and make that into an album because its "how I express myself". And then my second album will be me throwing a bunch of pots & pans down the stairs, but its ok, its "expression". I have no patience for people who worship individuals with no musical talent or ability, while they are taught to look down on REAL musicians with REAL talent. Thats what being a punk is all about - worshipping s**t |
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tuxon
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Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 03:54 |
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To be honest I found the progressive defenders more close minded than the punkers, or is that just me
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Teaflax
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Joined: June 26 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1225 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 04:07 |
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They do? I didn't even know Take That were still around.
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AtomHeartMother
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Joined: June 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 229 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 04:12 |
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atleast the punks arnt saying punk is the only good one, their jsut saying prog is bad, progs are saying that progs the only good one, and that punk is bad |
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tuxon
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Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
Posted: July 04 2005 at 04:12 |
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hmm let me refrase, it was funny, but not that funny
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