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Borealis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Neutral Zone Status: Offline Points: 599 |
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I’m young and don’t like Prog Metal. (although I voted for non young/dislike, I think...) |
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i am 25 and the only metal i like so far is opeth, dream theater,
symphony x, tool, mars volta. |
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Ben2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 870 |
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33 here and currently listening to heavier music than I ever have.
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-bp- ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: August 10 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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Im young and I like Prog Metal, but Symphonic Prog is still my fav genre/sub
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cobb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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Age has absolutely nothing to do with a passion for heavy guitars,
Mike. I have been listening to them for about 30 years. Metal ain't new!
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Olympus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 545 |
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Ha
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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cobb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 10 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1149 |
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BJean- have you tried devin townsend - ocean machine or terria are brilliant
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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Have you tried these:
P.S.: Of course a single song only gives you a vague idea of the album.
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Syzygy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7170 |
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Not young, and not much of a fan of prog metal. I am a fan of a lot of hard rock and plenty of noisy indie/alternative music, but most of the music listed as prog metal just leaves me cold (and I have tried DT, Opeth, Symphony X and most of the others with sample songs on this site). A lot of the time it seems like the worst of both worlds to me - not heavy enough for metal but too close to metal to be prog. Having got that off my chest, I can also understand the popularity of a lot of prog metal and the leading acts in the genre include musicians and writers as talented as in any other sub genre. Whilst I'm not a fan, I can't honestly say that I actively dislike much of it either. The age issue is an interesting one. I think that had I not grown up during the glory days of Led Zeppelin I'd probably be a lot more receptive to Dream Theater (not a perfect analogy, but it will do), in the same way that if I hadn't been around to experience Pink Floyd at first hand I'd probably have more time for Radiohead and Coldplay. |
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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That doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't is say "too close to metal to be rock"? Your comment seems to support my theory that Prog Metal is indeed very different from Prog Rock. IMO a lot of people bash Prog Metal needlessly because it's not similar to the established Prog Metal bands. But nobody said that it is, that's not the issue. You also said in another part of your post that there are many accomplished songwriters and musicians who focus on Prog Metal. Shouldn't we judge the quality of the music instead of the similarity to other genres?
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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There's a lot of folky pagan (if I recall correctly that's something you have an interest in?) music with metal undertones - I'm not too familiar in general but Empyrium used to do dark moody metal, before doing dark moody folk. There's a lot of pagan black metal too but that's usually awful
![]() edit: Empryium aren't prog, of course, but I'd imagine most of Mike's list wouldn't really be to your taste, although you may find Fantomas interesting I guess. Edited by goose |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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I listened to the examples of those bands in the database (not those examples you gave me, because they are only a few seconds long; nothing to judge by). here's what I have to say about them (ciomments were written immediately after I first heard them). Fantomas: "Rosemarie's Baby". interesting track, though I fear hardly representative. the part when it gets heavy is a little over the top, in my opinion, but certainly not uninteresting. Devin Townsend: "Hide Nowhere" and "War". excuse me, but I fail to see how these tracks are prog at all, not even prog metal. it is metal, yes, but absolutely no prog element. absolutely boring too. if this is in any way representative for his work, he should be removed from the archive. Heaven's Cry: unfortunately there is no MP3 of them in the archive, nothing I can judge. Pain of Salvation: "!Forward", "New Year's Eve", "Ashes", "Beyond the Pale". the most interesting so far. big plus: when they rock, they don't go over the top. on the minus side: I don't care much for the vocals (maybe I could get used to them though), and the keyboards are occasionally too billowing. Symphony X: "The Eyes of Medusa", "Church of the Machine", "Egypt". quite interesting. the keyboards generally seem to be a weak point of prog metal; here they are often too reedy or (again, as with Pain of Salvation) too billowing. nice duet between guitar and keyboards at the end of "Church of the Machine" though. the vocals leave me cold again. on the plus side, just as with Pain of Salvation: they don't go over the top when they rock. but those keyboards are sometimes way too "sülzig", as Friede said; a word that is difficult to translate; "schmaltzy" does not quite hit the mark; perhaps "billowing" is best to describe them. Psychotic Waltz: "Freakshow". nothing special here; a band like dozens of others. not even very proggy. in through one ear, out through the other. horrible vocals though (although they are absolutely typical for the metal genré). Adagio: "The Inner Road" and "Next Profundis": that's something I will have to listen to again. just one remark right now: why do so many singers have to sound like castrated cockerels? Ayreon: no MP3s here, so no comment. Ice Age: "Ice Age". by far the best track so far; even the vocals are bearable. more of this. Opeth: "The Drapery Falls", "Closure". quite interesting and many non-metal parts. but I can live without the growling; I think it is childish. if this is something they use often: no thanks. Shadow Gallery: "The Dance of Fools" and "Act 1- Victims". the first track is not metal at all, the 2nd a little. quite untypical for prog metal. Winds: "The Fireworks of Genesis". I like the beginning of that track with the string section; do they use it more often? the rest was nothing special |
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Man Overboard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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I'm 21, with the life experience of someone closer to the 'old' side,
and while I like prog metal, I prefer other forms of prog.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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Ed_The_Dead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 29 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4928 |
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Pos & Symph X don't care for vocals?! |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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Yes. Actually, if you only know Dead Soul Tribe and listen to Psychotic Waltz for the first time, I bet you wouldn't recognize that it's Devon. His singing was quite experimental in PW, and I really prefer his more mature style with Dead Soul Tribe. |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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I listened to the examples of Devin Townsend in the database; the MP3s that are in there ("Hide Nowhere" and "War") are absolutely horrible and boring and not prog at all; if this is in any way representative for his output he should be deleted from the database. and I don't say that because I generally disapprove of prog metal; I listened to a lot today and found some really interesting stuff (especially Ice Age) |
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Zac M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 03 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Young, and not a prog-metal fan
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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BaldJean: There's more to Devin Townsend than "meets the ear" on first listen. He's surely not your typical prog artist, that's obvious. His music has an enormous level of sophistication, especially on many tracks of "Infinity" and all of "Terria". I suggested a track from Terria in the collabs section, it should be added to the samples in a few days. Here are two samples (complete songs) from his homepage: http://www.hevydevy.com/mp3/Christeen.mp3 http://www.hevydevy.com/mp3/Canada.mp3 I'm curious what you think about them ... and why you're so opposed to his music even on first listen. Remember that there's a lot of music in the Electronic Prog genre that would cause equally negative reaction on first listen - Klaus Schulze for example (people would complain that it's just sphaerical synths). Edit: I just listened to the 128kbps versions ... the compression really hides the enormous level of detail in the songs.
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I'm young and I listen to prog metal.
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