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Hi,

I am of the opinion that FAMILY became a much better band once John Wetton left and they went into a much more rock oriented sound and their work got tighter and stronger, even though we don't consider it "progressive music", at the very least the strong, and very well defined guitar style for this band, was always excellent, and it continued in the STREETWALKERS material and even then after that on Roger Chapman's solo albums (notably HYENAS ONLY LAUGH FOR FUN).

Some folks like the earlier material because it was strange and sometimes weird, and it came off kinda drug crazy many times, but I find their last 3 albums much better all around (before they became STREETWALKERS), and for playing it on radio (Guy Guden pretty much tore up many of these albums, that's how much they were played!) around other pieces of music, these made for an excellent amount of material that could be heard time and again. 

Personally, I liked some of their very explosive pieces, instead of the more recognized sounding stuff. Things like BUFFET TEA FOR TWO, TAKE YOUR PARTNERS, and the like stood out for their individuality, which might have had its inception from within the progressive ranks, however, I really think that these were all intentionally defined around making their rock music design stronger and more appealing than just a piece here and there and a solo right here, kind of thing ... it was not about the solo ... it was about illustrating Roger Chapman's voice, and all the way to Chappo's solos this was very well done.

To me, since there were no "solos" to speak off, in many ways that made it for more "progressive" than otherwise. Sometimes people name something "progressive" simply because someone extends the solo much more ... and his name is Howe, or __________ (whoever!). The earlier material was a bit on the stony and weird side, and fun to listen to ... so it can be considered "progressive", being in the early days of PF, later days of Beatles, and the psychedelia craze. Even though it is fun to listen to, it is not my favorite material by this band at all ... which for me has always been about the voice and the guitar explosions ... and Chappo was one of the best at it.
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^ I prefer the "druggy crazy stuff".
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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

A perennial favourite lp from one of my all time favourite groups; and in my mind tops Family Entainment which followed.. It was 'Entertainment' along with ITCOTCK and some Procol Harum lps that Richard MacPhail brought to the Cottage where Genesis all lived together prior to recording Trespass..
One of the things that set Family a bit apart was the provincial background of the band, coming from the area around Leicester- the 'Scene' (using that phrase in its 60's meaning) was predominantly London based and very much middle class, Art School.. Family were (to use their phrase) a bunch of 'Scruffy Herberts' from the sticks.. before becoming Family (The Family) they were The Farinas and then the Roaring 60's.. much more hard R&B like the Pretty things and at one point they used to wear Italian mafia get ups! Roger Chapman's aggressive stage persona and the strange selection of instrumentation made audiences nervous and they had to work REALLY hard to get some of the limelight which came so easily to others. I think this provincial 'hunger' and work ethic to get noticed also applied to the Moody Blues..
Music in a dolls house benefited from Dave Mason's involvement in that (A) Traffic were a big deal (B) he helped and guided them through the production process (C) had access to Mellotrons and Sitars and probably most importantly(D) he had access to the best weed.. The only downside to Mason's involvement is the song he 'contributed' 'Never like this' which is the weakest on the lp and much like what he was writing for Traffic at the time. Of course they had the 2 best engineers of the era looking after things in the forms of Eddie Kramer and George Chkiantz..
Its a period piece; there is no other lp quite like it.. is it prog etc etc? who cares. Was it influential? yes definitely but subtly though they were always a bit too eccentric and rough around the edges for the mainstream to accept. John Peel really rated Family right from the start and (unlike some bands) stayed with them right through their career.. He appreciated that rough edge as sign of genuine passion and creativity.
My final comment is that the 1967 first single 'Scene through the eye of a lens' which didn't make it on to the original lp is just fantastic, one of the most telling debuts from any band.
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I've had this album for a couple years and have given many listens.  I like it, but it's never risen to the level of other late 60's psych/protoprog I love like the 1st Floyd album, Nazz Nazz, Procol's debut, S&Garfunkel's Bookends, Zappa's Absolutely Free, Giles Giles & Fripp, etc.  In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the Small Faces "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake" without the silly voices and narration.

OTOH, the Streetwalkers 1976 song, "Decadence Code" is my fave Roger Chapman song ever.  Here's a bizarre fact, I was just looking the album "Red Card" up on wiki and the drummer was Nicko McBrain...soon to find world stardom as Iron Maiden's drummer Wink
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