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MikeEnRegalia
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^ Yes, especially last year (2023) was a really good year for prog, so many strong releases most of which not conforming to any rigid template.
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RockHound
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Prog just seems to bump on and on-there will always be people interested in challenging music.
I view the classic material, including the best things coming out since the '70s, the way I view classical and Jazz. I routinely go back to music as early as the Elizabethan era because John Dowland was the original rock star. Much of my current exploration focuses on newer prog releases, classic Jazz, and filling in the blanks in my classic collection. Charlie Parker, Django Reinhardt, and Ornette Coleman are every bit as relevant today as they were when they were active. Popularity fades, but quality art has timeless durability. As long as quality music remains available, it will be explored by the adventurous.
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MikeEnRegalia
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I’m currently learning to play Beethoven’s moonshine sonata. Seriously progressive stuff
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Valdez1
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The Elizabethan Era… I’ll have to check it out.
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Moonshine sonata?! I don't know that one. Was Beethoven a bootlegger?
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MikeEnRegalia
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I just translated it from the German “Mondschein” … too literally. I stand corrected, it’s called the moonlight sonata.
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Cristi
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I wasn't trying to correct you, accidental humor is awesome.
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Manuel
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I like the term "Magic" you are using. That magic is what makes us play a song/album/symphony, etc. over and over again. That magic inspires other artists to continue pushing the envelope and coming up with new ideas/sounds/genres etc. That magic, that pure genius is what separates great music/artists, from the rest, and that's what keeps the wheel going around. That's the magic I'm sure will never disappear.
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Onslow
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This is a no brainer.
The future of prog is certainly secure. It continues swimmingly, thank-you. Last I looked, there are two/three new prog BANDS popping up every day. That says something. Beats the heyday of prog in early seventies. ............. "Prog? What prog?" Onslow asked, disingenuously. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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To answer the OP's question I think prog will survive. Many of the so called "old" listeners have children who are fans and some even have grandchildren who are fans. Then there's probably a lot of younger people who discovered prog on their own who will keep prog going for who knows how long. If you look at the birthdays at the bottom of the forum page you will see that the prog fans on here are of many different ages. Id' say it's pretty spread out.
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Logan
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Good time to say it, happy birthday! |
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Frets N Worries
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With the dawn of people being able to make prog albums literally on their phones, I think it's a safe bet to say it's secure
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The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow.
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rdtprog
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The future of Prog will stop at my death, unless I can find a way to bring my iPhone up there and listen in a total spiritual world.
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King Crimson776
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How many of those are going to be any good though? We need young musicians who actually listen to classical music (as the great prog musicians of the 70's did) and understand what makes a coherent composition. Absent that, you get a lot of the technical w**kery and "avant-garde" nonsense that we hear in recent years. The musicians may be very skilled, but they have no compositional sense.
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Floydoid
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^I totally agree... music needs a soul and spirit too which you will never get from whatever digital 'wizardry' you employ.
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moshkito
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Hi, Or from the copies, and supposedly inspired by someone or something. In the end, the "magic" comes from within, not without! The only strange thing is that I have always thought that music was always "progressive", as if the Stravinsky's and other 20th century composers did not move from the more standardized stuff into more adventurous material, only for the "music" to go backwards with the C. Berry's and such ... and then in the 1970's we finally decided that the new stuff out there was progressive. In essence, they came back to something that all music had lost due to the commercial era that would only play the simplest of melodies and songs for the audience. All in all, for me, it has always been progressive, and that is the reason why sometimes I do not review or discuss many works, which to me are not really special in the history of it all. The only saddest thing is when an artist goes "backwards" because of bizarre comments by reviewers ... and while I can understand the need for a dollar or two, in the end, I tend to wonder where the heart truly lies ... repeating itself, instead of maintaining an independent creativity.
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Dowland is definitely worth checking out-he’s one of Steve Howe’s major influences. Paul O’Dette is a lutenist who did a very elaborate rendition of his catalog on the Harmonia Mundi label. The Boston Consort does good renditions of the vocal works. Liner notes and other texts discuss the meaning of the lyrics (entertaining ribaldry) and recount Dowland’s antics in Elizabeth’s court and elsewhere, which nearly got him beheaded a few times. If he were alive today he’d probably be a metaller.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Maybe you haven't listened to the best releases? I agree that although for example 2023 was a magnificent year for prog, some many albums were (and are still being) released that it is more difficult to find the outstanding ones.
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cstack3
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Worry not, Grasshopper.... the future of prog will be secure with the youth.
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Awesoreno
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This take is nonsense as it assumes that many young musicians who play music in the prog sphere don't listen to classical (many do, and "classical" is a pretty wide umbrella genre), AND that one HAS to listen to it to make good prog (many don't and the music is just as good). So widen your scope, not only of what newer prog you listen to, but of what qualifies as "prog" or "good prog" or even "good" music. If you can't handle a little experimentalism and prefer more structure, or just prefer older recording/production techniques, then just admit that it comes down to your taste rather than lambast musicians of my generation with uninformed opinions.
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