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Rashikal

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:12

radiohead isnt neo prog

listen to Hella

Fragile

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:17

You seem almost believable but I just read your thread' If I don't like CTTE' again why does it get rated so highly etc well, if you are serious about moving from basic rock to prog perhaps you should open your ears to more involved complicated time structures than the Floyd or else you'll sink like the Titanic.

Ghandi 2

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:33

What? Besides the completely unnecessary allegation that I'm lying; for which I have no motive, by the way, I AM trying to get into more complex stuff; hence the CTTE purchase. As for complicated time structures, weird ones don't bother me since I don't even notice them; on LTE 2 on the liner notes for the song Another Dimension, they talk about how this one section moves from 5/8 to 7/8 (or something like that) in bizzare patterns, and if they hadn't told me, I honestly would have thought the whole thing was in 4/4 (with changes in tempo, obviously)! So that doesn't bother me; I simply don't like the music. I think Zappa used some crazy stuff on Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo, and One Size Fits All, and I like those albums. Also, if you hadn't noticed, I am trying to like CTTE, but I simply can't. I will continue to try, but I really don't think that I'm suddenly going to like it after one or two more listens.

So there's no need to be condescending.

Fragile

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:45

Ghandi, no one said you were lying.Why don't you continue to listen to the finest albun in all of progland it may just get you, if not, then Yes or this album are not for you.But not liking it I can accept, what I find hard to accept is rating an album that has been revered by so many so lowly.Prog takes time. It is not an over night, over one year thing. You grow with it and it will shape your life.So sorry, if you thought I was alluding to you lying, which I most certainly wasn't

Ghandi 2

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:56

Well then I think you should choose your words more carefully in the future. Saying that "You seem almost believable" means that I'm not believable, which means you don't believe me, which means you think I'm lying.

I honestly don't care that lots of other people adore it; I don't, and that should be reflected in my review, because then somebody else out there will know that they might not like it. If I rate it highly because other people love it, then the person who comes here looking through the reviews for advice will never know its valid faults which may or may not prevent him/her from enjoying it.

Hierophant View Drop Down

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 19:59

Ghandi 2 wrote:

Fragile

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 20:09

English is a simple language when someone says they don't believe you they are not saying you are lying.If you want to continue your line of not liking CTTE then fine but you will be a very lone voice crying in the wilderness.Sure, they may be a couple more in here but they will be in the minority.As for your review subjectivity,it won't sway another's opinion, once they listen to something.To reiterate, Yes is, was, and always will be, the finest band on God's planet.

Ghandi 2

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Posted: March 21 2006 at 20:31

Fragile wrote:

English is a simple language when someone says they don't believe you they are not saying you are lying.

Then (to continue in our joyous semantics) what does it mean when you say you don't believe someone. Seriously, I want to know. Once again, you are being condescending when there is absolutely no need for you to be so. I am a native English speaker, but just for the record, English is not a simple language; it's one of the most complex and difficult languages to learn. Mandarin Chinese beats it, but only because it has thousands of characters which must be memorized.

If you want to continue your line of not liking CTTE then fine but you will be a very lone voice crying in the wilderness.Sure, they may be a couple more in here but they will be in the minority.

I saw several people who didn't like CTTE in my thread. Being in the minority doesn't bother me; hell, we're ALL in the minority. That doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy The Emancipation of Mimi by Mariah Carey and then like it simply because it's the number one selling album of 2005 in the US.

As for your review subjectivity,it won't sway another's opinion, once they listen to something.

Of course it won't sway somebody's opinion after they've listened to CTTE and formed their own opinion. However, that's not the purpose a review though. The purpose of a review is to let others know what you think of something before they hear it, so they can decide whether or not to drop $9 or more on an album.

To reiterate, Yes is, was, and always will be, the finest band on God's planet

Now you're the one being incredibly subjective. Despite your claims that my negative review won't change anyone's opinion, it sure seems to me that you're trying to change my opinion with your positive comments.

Please put spaces in between your sentences; it makes your post easier to read.