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chopper
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Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 11:45 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Hackett and Latimer make the Gibson sing like a bird and Johnny Fean of Horslips and Bill Nelson of Be Bop Deluxe are also exceptional Les Paul players.
But Gilmour, Knopfler, Malcolm Jones of Runrig and Bryan Josh of Mostly Autumn produce exquisite sounds from a Strat.
So it's a draw. Each has distinct merits.
But let's not forget the Yamaha SG 2000 - in Rothery's hands it's as good as anything.
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I would have thought Bill Nelson was better known for playing a different Gibson model (not sure which one, is it a 335?).
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Philéas
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Joined: June 14 2006
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 15:23 |
Fender Stratocaster. Plays better, sounds better, looks better, and
today, you get much more quality for your money than if you buy a
Gibson.
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maani
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Joined: January 30 2004
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:08 |
The truth is that any top guitar player worth his salt - from mostly Strat-users like Clapton, Gilmour and others to mostly Paul-users like Fripp, Hendrix and others - owns and uses both types of guitars. Indeed, Adrian Belew, Gilmour and Clapton (among many others) would consider you warped for thinking that they are "Strat" guys simply because they are oftened pictured with one.
Peace.
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AtLossForWords
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 11 2005
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:14 |
For lead playing, nothing sounds better than a Les Paul through a Marshall JCM head and cabinet. The only reason why they aren't as popular live anymore is their weight. They can take a players arm off if he's standing up with that 5 times a week for 45-60 minutes.
The rythymn playing, the strat. It's the quinessential background chord sound.
All around, I'll choose a Les Paul.
E.S.P. is a good mix of tone and playability.
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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imoeng
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Joined: February 03 2006
Location: Indonesia
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Points: 2450
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 18:18 |
Musicman EBJP is pretty good too
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Philéas
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 21:18 |
maani wrote:
...to mostly Paul-users like... Hendrix... |
Hendrix used a strat most of the time. Occasionally a Flying V or an SG, but hardly ever a Les Paul.
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dralan
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Joined: December 29 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: July 18 2006 at 11:58 |
I love both, but in the context of the question - which is your preference for guitar in prog? - I'll say Les Paul. The rich warm tones of a Paul a la Hackett or Fripp better suit prog to me than the more piercing, trebly sound of a Strat.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 01:03 |
For God's sake, when will people learn that with two top instruments only the performer makes the difference?
Walsh makes an excellent work with a Kurtzweill, a keyboard that most top musicians wouldn't use.
Iván
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Foxtrot
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Joined: August 19 2005
Location: USA
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 15:07 |
Owning and playing both, I can tell you that Les Pauls and Stratocasters are very different animals. There is a best choice for any given song, or even parts the guitar will play in the song. Guitar players, like keyboardists, have the wonderful option (or is it a curse?) to have several different sounding instruments, and to have more than one on stage for quick changes. If I had to pick only one to use all the time, I would go with my Les Paul, (or my Explorer which has very similar characteristics) because it is much more versatile. I can play resounding rhythm guitar with the Les Paul, and still get some piercing solo sounds come out of it - The Strat can't keep up with the Les Paul when chording. I can make my Gibsons sound more or less like a Strat if I had to, but I cannot do the opposite. Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice, because duplicating a riff or making up new sounds in the style of a given performer is always best done with an instrument similar to what they used, and an extra guitar or two on stage is not a big problem.
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 7659
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 15:41 |
Steve Howe about his favorite Gibson and Fender guitars:
Gibson ES175D: "This is my ultimate guitar, I use it for the Yes vintage pieces"
Gibson ES345TD: "I sometimes think of this guitar as if I were an enormous landing
sight for my fingers"
Gibson Les Paul Junior: "It had a sound, you plug it in and there it is"
Gibson ES Artist: "I wanted something that was clean and simple, really streamlined"
Fender Telecaster: "True Telecaster chicken-picking sound"
Fender Stratocaster Sunburst 67: "I tend to use it for that wild side of myself, it's not
always a calm guitar"
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dralan
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Posted: July 19 2006 at 17:11 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
For God's sake, when will people learn that with two top instruments only the performer makes the difference?
Walsh makes an excellent work with a Kurtzweill, a keyboard that most top musicians wouldn't use.
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That is obviously true, but the two guitars definately have different qualities about them no matter who is playing them. I think if Hendrix were strictly a Les Paul man we would have heard very different results even though it would still sound like Hendrix.
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