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Poll Question: Which of these two albums is better?
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2007 at 01:13
Originally posted by sircosick sircosick wrote:

Both are dissapointing, dear Whistler... maybe because they were released between two masterpieces: Thick as a Brick and Minstrel in the Gallery.

Anyway, if my polls dislike you, just stay away... and if you think that I'm stupid for comparing TAAB with APP, then you're a Tull's pseudo-fan (moreover if you say "Skating away, the best song ever written"..... huh...... what can I say.....)
 
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1) I totally agree with your first point, Thick and Minstrel are better than Play and Warchild.
 
2) Thick is always compared to Play for obvious reasons. I just wanted to toss out another angle. Because I'm an ass. End of story.
 
3) When I said that it was stupid to compare Thick with any other album, I was just talking from a highly personal point of view (i.e., I don't believe anyone here thinks as highly of the mighty Quad as I do, but you can all go jump in the nearest large body of water). Additionally, I don't think you're stupid for comparing apples to oranges there. I'm sure you're a great guy (albiet a tad sensitive mayhap).
 
4) Okay, maybe Skating's not the GREATEST song ever written, but that in and of itself is a pointless question because it's far too vauge and contantly debatable (but it's "Can't Hurry Love" by the Supremes. Think about it). Anyway, Skating is mighty fine though...
 
Don't go too far Witchwoody; you're next...
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Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

All you Passion Play fans.
You would rather a toilet flush,
than a commercial reconciliation?
 
That IS a loaded question.
 
Ugh! Why does everyone think that Warchild is the commercial album? It's totally not! At all! In any way! Passion Play is the sell out! I think...
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Passion IS a sell out.
Warchild is an attempt to reconsile that.
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Yes, because Passion Play sounds like everything around it. Yes and ELP. Not that I have anything those dudes, but I like Jethro Ian because he was always a little different than the pack. Passion Play killed that. Sniff.
 
And Bungle is STILL a tricky orchestral rock song with a flute and sound effects regardless of what the radio believes.
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Yeh, Warchild has some good pieces. Bungle and Skating Away are the Best. Sealion is good , but I think it shines more on Nightcap. It is more commercial, but sh*t loads better than the pointless and uninteresting  "Play".
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Warchild is no more commercial than any of Tull's other crap. Which, okay, might be more commercial than, say, Van Der Graafers dropping lightbulbs as percussion. But still...
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You see, at least "commercial "makes an attempt to APPEAL to people.
I hate to be on the side of defending Com Pop, but here (1974) it makes a point..
Passion is an unabashed, unashamed, pompous abuse of the musically uneducated. This rape of the public ear is ONE of the greatest catalysts in the oncoming punk philosophy.
ie- musical self indulgence (masterbation), to the enth degree, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Warchild, was the result of the smacking of  Ian's sticky hand, and bringing him back to reality.
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What a joke!
Passion play by mile!
 
I just bougt remaster CD, and in booklet Anderson said that Passion play is their best, but the fans were dissapointed because they wanted another Aqualung.
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Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

You see, at least "commercial "makes an attempt to APPEAL to people.
I hate to be on the side of defending Com Pop, but here (1974) it makes a point..
Passion is an unabashed, unashamed, pompous abuse of the musically uneducated. This rape of the public ear is ONE of the greatest catalysts in the oncoming punk philosophy.
ie- musical self indulgence (masterbation), to the enth degree, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Warchild, was the result of the smacking of  Ian's sticky hand, and bringing him back to reality.
Two fingers to you.Big%20smile


Okay, yes for self indulgence and masturbation...agreed 100 %.
But abuse of the musically uneducated?!? That statetement is not narrow-minded or harsh...it's simply rubbish.
Percussion, sir!
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Hard to say, neither are really first flight, imho. I would say that 'War Child' is at least less excessive than APP so that gets my vote, but it's 'not bad' rather than 'great' as I find so many of the songs to be insubstantial, something the remaster has not really done anything to change my mind about.
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Both are far from being my favorites, but PP is probaby my least favorite Tull album. So Warchild.
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[QUOTE=clarke2001] [QUOTE=Witchwoodhermit]You see, at least "commercial "makes an attempt to APPEAL to people.
I hate to be on the side of defending Com Pop, but here (1974) it makes a point..
Passion is an unabashed, unashamed, pompous abuse of the musically uneducated. This rape of the public ear is ONE of the greatest catalysts in the oncoming punk philosophy.
ie- musical self indulgence (masterbation), to the enth degree, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Warchild, was the result of the smacking of  Ian's sticky hand, and bringing him back to reality.
Two fingers to you.Big%20smile


Okay, yes for self indulgence and masturbation...agreed 100 %.
But abuse of the musically uneducated?!? That statetement is not narrow-minded or harsh...it's simply rubbish.
 
 
 
Yes. I recant that wording.Embarrassed
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I prefer A passion play, I love that album

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Originally posted by Witchwoodhermit Witchwoodhermit wrote:

[QUOTE=clarke2001] [QUOTE=Witchwoodhermit]You see, at least "commercial "makes an attempt to APPEAL to people.
I hate to be on the side of defending Com Pop, but here (1974) it makes a point..
Passion is an unabashed, unashamed, pompous abuse of the musically uneducated. This rape of the public ear is ONE of the greatest catalysts in the oncoming punk philosophy.
ie- musical self indulgence (masterbation), to the enth degree, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Warchild, was the result of the smacking of  Ian's sticky hand, and bringing him back to reality.
Two fingers to you.Big%20smile


Okay, yes for self indulgence and masturbation...agreed 100 %.
But abuse of the musically uneducated?!? That statetement is not narrow-minded or harsh...it's simply rubbish.
 
 
 
Yes. I recant that wording.Embarrassed


And I recant my fanboyism and over-emotional replyEmbarrassed
Percussion, sir!
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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2007 at 15:42
The atmospheres on Passion Play are much more gripping.

Not to mention that War Child has NO atmosphere.
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[QUOTE=clarke2001] [QUOTE=Witchwoodhermit][QUOTE=clarke2001] [QUOTE=Witchwoodhermit]You see, at least "commercial "makes an attempt to APPEAL to people.
I hate to be on the side of defending Com Pop, but here (1974) it makes a point..
Passion is an unabashed, unashamed, pompous abuse of the musically uneducated. This rape of the public ear is ONE of the greatest catalysts in the oncoming punk philosophy.
ie- musical self indulgence (masterbation), to the enth degree, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Warchild, was the result of the smacking of  Ian's sticky hand, and bringing him back to reality.
Two fingers to you.Big%20smile


Okay, yes for self indulgence and masturbation...agreed 100 %.
But abuse of the musically uneducated?!? That statetement is not narrow-minded or harsh...it's simply rubbish.
 
 
 
Yes. I recant that wording.Embarrassed


And I recant my fanboyism and over-emotional replyEmbarrassed
 
 
 
 
All's well.Hug
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'WILL NOT BE TOLERATED' ......What the........????
Perhaps IA had people like Witchwoodhermit in mind when he wrote and sang....

'There are blackheads on his shoulders ,
And he pees himself in the night.....'

Will we make a man of him, put him to the test? What is the test ?

THE test is to actually sit down and appreciate the musical wealth APP has to offer. Pass or fail?
Looking still the same after all these years...
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