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Points: 4373 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2008 at 23:59
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, what comes to mind instantly is Water's "Animals" lyrics railing against the system, establishment, Mary Whitehouse, the public "sheep."   The veil is pretty thin.  Great stuff though. 

Funny thing is, Punk ripped Floyd at the very time Water's unleashed this diatribe.  The messages weren't that different, and the punkers should have realized Floyd were an ally, not the enemy. 





"I Hate Pink Floyd." Wonderful.

A few decades later, we see this:

"How could you hate Pink Floyd? It's like saying, 'Kill the fluffy bunnies.'

"If you're going to make me a monster, at least give me something worth really rebelling against.

"I've run into DAVID GILMOUR several times over the years, and he thinks it's hilarious. He's a great bloke."


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Points: 24392 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 02:34
I think someone mentioned Jethro Tull in one of the previous posts. Ian Anderson's lyrics do very often have a message - one of my personal favourites is "My God", which perfectly captures the hypocrisy of organised religion, and the way it uses God for its own ends.
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Points: 1594 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 05:38
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, what comes to mind instantly is Water's "Animals" lyrics railing against the system, establishment, Mary Whitehouse, the public "sheep."   The veil is pretty thin.  Great stuff though. 

Funny thing is, Punk ripped Floyd at the very time Water's unleashed this diatribe.  The messages weren't that different, and the punkers should have realized Floyd were an ally, not the enemy. 





"I Hate Pink Floyd." Wonderful.

A few decades later, we see this:

"How could you hate Pink Floyd? It's like saying, 'Kill the fluffy bunnies.'

"If you're going to make me a monster, at least give me something worth really rebelling against.

"I've run into DAVID GILMOUR several times over the years, and he thinks it's hilarious. He's a great bloke."


 
I've always been a fan of Punk Floyd (music AND message). Wink
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Points: 66092 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 09:12
Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 
As an aside, I always thought that a flying purple wolf hound was some made up word like Led Zeppelin's "hedgerow " until I recently read that it was a slang term for warplanes flying overhead.
 
Pardon? "hedgerow" is a made up word? Shocked
 
Maybe it's not.  I don't know.  I heard an interview with Page and/or Plant many years ago in which they were talking about Stairway to Heaven, and the interviewer asked them what a hedgerow was and they responded that they didn't know, it was something that the other one made up.  And I've carried that in the deep recesses of my brain ever since. 
 
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

 
As an aside, I always thought that a flying purple wolf hound was some made up word like Led Zeppelin's "hedgerow " until I recently read that it was a slang term for warplanes flying overhead.
 
Pardon? "hedgerow" is a made up word? Shocked
 
Maybe it's not.  I don't know.  I heard an interview with Page and/or Plant many years ago in which they were talking about Stairway to Heaven, and the interviewer asked them what a hedgerow was and they responded that they didn't know, it was something that the other one made up.  And I've carried that in the deep recesses of my brain ever since. 
 
"Don't look at the strange man mumbling to himself over here, and maybe he will leave us alone". 
I think they were more probably asked what a "bustle in a hedgerow" was - a phrase which left many people scratching their heads wondering why the May Queen should be cleaning a narrow band of wooded vegetation marking the boundary between two fields wearing a Victorian undergarment in springtime. But alas no, 
 
this is a hedgerow:

and a bustle is a rapid and lively commotion, as in hustle'n'bustle (oft mis-spelt as bussle).
 
Messer's Page & Plant didn't write that many nonsensical lyrics, but they didn't half talk a load of rubbish to journalists when the opportunity arose. LOL
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Points: 297 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 10:25
I didn't see Frank Zappa mentioned. He always had social and political criticisms. 
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Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

I think they were more probably asked what a "bustle in a hedgerow" was - a phrase which left many people scratching their heads wondering why the May Queen should be cleaning a narrow band of wooded vegetation marking the boundary between two fields wearing a Victorian undergarment in springtime.
 
Which is why that whole passage made more sense when played backwards.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

One of my favorites is Midnight Oil, who fight for indigenous rights for aborigines in Australia.


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Not only Aboriginal rights but moreso environmental issues. That is the reason Peter Garret is now the
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Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

One of my favorites is Midnight Oil, who fight for indigenous rights for aborigines in Australia.


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Not only Aboriginal rights but moreso environmental issues. That is the reason Peter Garret is now the
Australian minister for the environment. One of my fave bands in my younger days.Awesome live band.Clap


that's true.. wasn't the environment the theme of Blue Sky MIning.

Scream in Blue Live was a great live album... one of my favorites from that time. 

I have a funny story about how I discovered this group... but probably not for public forum LOL
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 23:21
Gabriel era Genesis were the kings of songs with messages, starting with the name Selling England by the Pound, takes it's name fr9om a Laboiur Party Manifesto. 
 
But you got a lot: for example
 
  1. The Knife: It's a pun against revolutionary  messiahs, the words "Some of YOU are going to DIE" (Of course the leader won't die, he's above the rest)..."marthyrs of course of the freedom that I shall Provide" (Who's providing the freedom? Those who fight or a leader who is healthy and fat?). It's a clear message against messianic leaders.
  2. Get 'em Out by Friday: Also a criticism to greed based society.
  3. Watcher of the Skies: The words "Judge not this race from it's empty remains" say it all, it's a call against self destruction of mankind.
I never understood the Punk criticism, maybe they believe raging against everything in the most crude and obvious way is better than intelligent lyrics with message?
 
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Points: 64700 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 29 2008 at 23:30
if a journalist doesn't know what a hedgerow is he deserves to have his chain yanked
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if you were familiar with the British way of gardening you would not ask yourself what a "hedgerow" is.

as to bustle: you seem tzo think of this meaning of the word:

bus·tle2      /ˈbʌsəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buhs-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.fullness around or below the waist of a dress, as added by a peplum, bows, ruffles, etc.
2.a pad, cushion, or framework formerly worn under the back of a woman's skirt to expand, support, and display the full cut and drape of a dress.
there is, however, another meaning of it:

bus·tle1      /ˈbʌsəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[buhs-uhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -tled, -tling, noun –verb (used without object)
1.to move or act with a great show of energy (often fol. by about): He bustled about cooking breakfast.
2.to abound or teem with something; display an abundance of something; teem (often fol. by with): The office bustled with people and activity.
–verb (used with object)
3.to cause to bustle; hustle.
–noun
4.thriving or energetic activity; stir; ferment.

to me it always seemed clear that definition 4 was meant when Led Zeppelin sang about the "bustle in the hedgerow"



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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

One of my favorites is Midnight Oil, who fight for indigenous rights for aborigines in Australia.


Clap  same here...
Not only Aboriginal rights but moreso environmental issues. That is the reason Peter Garret is now the
Australian minister for the environment. One of my fave bands in my younger days.Awesome live band.Clap


that's true.. wasn't the environment the theme of Blue Sky MIning.

Scream in Blue Live was a great live album... one of my favorites from that time. 

I have a funny story about how I discovered this group... but probably not for public forum LOL


I love the Oils, but only have Diesel and Dust (an absolute classic). I'll be getting The Sun and Moon and Sky soon.
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Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Peart  writes lyrics for the thinking man
 
Heck yes.   But the king here (once he gets added, that is) is Todd Rudgren.  The guy doesn't shy away from messages in his music.  "When you stand, stand for something."
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Did anyone mention Neal Morse?
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I think someone mentioned Jethro Tull in one of the previous posts. Ian Anderson's lyrics do very often have a message - one of my personal favourites is "My God", which perfectly captures the hypocrisy of organised religion, and the way it uses God for its own ends.
My thoughts exactly when I think about Neil MorseBig%20smile
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2008 at 09:52
The messages in Pain of Salvations albums Entropia, One Hour by the Concrete Lake, Be and Scarsick arent hard to find, particualrly the latter two.
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The only guy that I really listen to for a message is Todd Rundgren.  When he wants to get a message across, he does it well.
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Points: 66092 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:33
^ "I don't want to work, I want to bang on the drums all day."  
 
Not what you had in mind, but one of my favorite messages.
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2008 at 18:32
Definitely NOT what I had in mind, but not a bad message considering.....
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