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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2008 at 23:36
Fripp is just so hit or miss.  But I will continue my journey with him, because I've yet to find an album with no redeeming qualities.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2008 at 23:42
I once gave a friend a CD-R which had the following songs:

1. The Messenger (5:12)- Dead Soul Tribe
2. Winning A War [edit] (6:24)- Pain of Salvation
3. The Pot (6:26)- Tool
4. Leaders (4:00)- Katatonia
5. Bug Eyes (4:21)- dredg
6. Fragile Dreams (5:33)- Anathema
7. Charm Offensive (7:19)- Oceansize
8. Panzer (7:03)- Amplifier
9. Another Perfect Day (4:43)- Fates Warning
10. Windowpane (7:44)- Opeth
11. The Sound of Muzak (5:01)- Porcupine Tree
12.  Three of a Perfect Pair (4:11)- Between The Buried and Me's cover of a King Crimson classic
13. I am The King (4:38)- Jelly Jam
14. Saturnine [Live, semi acoustic version] (4:54)- The Gathering


Modern, more on the prog metal side.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2008 at 23:45
Originally posted by JayDee JayDee wrote:

I once gave a friend a CD-R which had the following songs:

1. The Messenger (5:12)- Dead Soul Tribe
2. Winning A War [edit] (6:24)- Pain of Salvation
3. The Pot (6:26)- Tool
4. Leaders (4:00)- Katatonia
5. Bug Eyes (4:21)- dredg
6. Fragile Dreams (5:33)- Anathema
7. Charm Offensive (7:19)- Oceansize
8. Panzer (7:03)- Amplifier
9. Another Perfect Day (4:43)- Fates Warning
10. Windowpane (7:44)- Opeth
11. The Sound of Muzak (5:01)- Porcupine Tree
12.  Three of a Perfect Pair (4:11)- Between The Buried and Me's cover of a King Crimson classic
13. I am The King (4:38)- Jelly Jam
14. Saturnine [Live, semi acoustic version] (4:54)- The Gathering


Modern, more on the prog metal side.


Most of those I don't know.  Maybe you should send one to me.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 01:20

The following would be a good Britich prog sampler.  I haven't checked the times but they would be about right.

Karelia Suite - The Nice
And You and I - Yes
Refugees - Van der Graaf Generator
Song for Europe - Roxy Music
Evening over Rooftops - Edgar Broughton Band
Beware the Ides of March - Colosseum
One of these Days - Pink Floyd
Endless Enigma - ELP
Queen of Dreams - Strawbs
Musical Box - Genesis
Epitaph - King Crimson
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:22
Ok, with the task of 'bringing in new listeners' in mind, I chose mostly newer shorter songs with a few older songs for posterity's sake.

1)  Blackest Eyes - Porcupine Tree (catchy, easily obtainable with lyrics that will grab the attention of today's youth)
2)  Black Light Machine - Frost* (incredibly upbeat song, once again, the intro loop makes you want to listen)
3)  Roses - RPWL (once you pulled them in with the first two drop the tempo a bit, let them mellow out to Ray Wilson's earthy voice)
4)  The Colors Changed - Sylvan (Here's where you break their heart, make sure that the CD indicates this is part of an epic piece with an intriguing storyline.)
5)  June - Spock's Beard (one of my least favorite Beard songs yet one of the most accessible)
6)  Panic Room - Riverside (Wake them back up, heavy guitar riffs, lush keys and Mariuz Duda's voice, I've taken the last minute of the song, the self portraits bit out for time)
7)  Dark Star - Fish (should be a James Bond theme, terribly majestic)
8)  Cinema Show / Aisle of Plenty - Genesis (2008 mix)  (ok, now that we've carried them along this far, here's a throw back into more serious prog.  The new recording should help this sound on par with the rest of the sampler).
9)  Misunderstood - Dream Theater (After Cinema Show we go back to something more accessible.  I'm also dropping out the last three minutes for time and because it kills the whole accessibility bit).
10) I am the Sun, Part 2 - The Flower Kings - I'd drop the last five minutes or so, just the 'baby elephant bit and the minute or two after that, very accessible, makes you smile and making people fee good makes them want more).
11)  Guiding Light - IQ (Great song, easily accessible vocal theme, wonderful instrumental section followed by the perfect ending, the ending works very well but it is so abrupt that it leaves you wanting more).

With the cuts I'm pretty close to 80 minutes, with enough finagling you could get this list onto a 80 minute CD.

Last minute cuts included 'Wish You Where Here' - Vanden Plas and 'Schism' - Tool.  Wanted to include a few harder items but just ran out of space.

Enjoy


Edited by Roland113 - November 01 2008 at 14:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:27
Good list Roland.  I just might have to make that into a compilation album.  My one suggestion along the same thinking would be to add a song from Pure Reason Revolution, although I'm not quite sure which one, and I'm not sure which song I'd replace since I like all of them that you listed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:38
King Crimson - Fallen Angel (absolutely has to be first)
Henry Cow - War
Gentle Giant - Just the Same (or at least I think that's what it's called)
Comus - Diana
Robert Wyatt - Last Straw
Mr. Bungle - The Holy Filament
Area - Cometa Rossa

etc etc etc, the idea being to introduce people to non-AOR Radio prog in this case.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:50
After listening to that one Lappy, I would definitely have to do a Boston marathon to realign my stars. WinkLOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:59
-20th century schizoid Man....King Crimson  7mns
-Nights in White Satin............Moody Blues     7mns
-Heart of The Sunrise............Yes                     7mns
-The Barbarian........................ELP                    5mns
-Firth OF fIFTH.........................Genesis            8mns
-Robert Wyatt...........................Alifib                   6mns
-Astronomy domine................Pink Floyd         4mns
-my God....................................Jethro Tull         7mns
-Surrounded by the stars.......Amon duul 2.....7mns
-Birds of Fire              ...............Mahavishnu Orchestra            5mns
-Refugees           ......................Vdgg.                  6mns
-Ork alarm..................................Magma              5mns
-Impressione di setembre......PFM                   5mns
-In the court of the CK..............King Crimson..8mns
 
Voila! it clocks at around 80mns..........this is NOT my best of, but the one i would put out if i were a record executiveLOL..............accessible, yet representing a wide horizon of what prog can produce!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 12:05
Ca. 79 minutes:

1 Gong Master Builder 6.07
2 Van Der Graaf Generator Sleepwalkers 10.32
3 Premiata Forneria Marconi Impressione Di Settembre 6.25
4 Amon Düül II Eye Shaking King 5.40
5 Can Oh Yeah 7.24
6 Soft Machine Hibou Anemone and Bear 5.59
7 King Crimson Circus 6.28
8 Univers Zero Carabosse 3.47
9 Area ZYG (Crescita Zero) 5.29
10 Kayo Dot Right Hand is The One I Want 6.53
11 Magma Zombies (Ghost Dance) 4.15
12 Tangerine Dream Mysterious Semblance At The Strand Of Nightmares 9.55
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 14:41
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Good list Roland.  I just might have to make that into a compilation album.  My one suggestion along the same thinking would be to add a song from Pure Reason Revolution, although I'm not quite sure which one, and I'm not sure which song I'd replace since I like all of them that you listed.


Thanks Rushfan, Actually, the first iteration did have 'Goshen's Remains' from the Pure Reason Revolution on it (along with 'Solid as the Sun' of Neal Morse fame). 

Slightly off subject, I picked up the Pure Reason Revolution CD from a used shop based on someone's recommendation from the forums here.  I forget who it was that mentioned it, probably either you (Rushfan) or E-Dub as my tastes seem to mimic both of yours.

Nonetheless, who ever it was, Thanks, I really enjoy the CD
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 15:02
Originally posted by JROCHA JROCHA wrote:

Some epics and some shorter tracks

Heart of the Sunrise - Yes
The Trees - Rush
Red - King Crimson
Birdland - Weather Report
Squonk - Genesis
Meeting of the Spirits - Mahavishnu
The Barbarian - ELP
Undercover Man - VDGG
Any color you Like - Floyd
Lady Fantasy - Camel

I think these would be some good songs to start out with for a new prog listener


 
I don't think you list is by any means perfect, but I do think it is the best to introduce people to prog that has been posted so far.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2008 at 16:00
^I think there's to few genres and nationalities represented. A typical english/american dominated list. 
Over land and under ashes
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But don't believe in me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 06:15

Great idea, Robert.  I won't make any attempt to ease a new listener in gently.  My cd is as follows:-

ELP - Karn Evil 9 1st Impression
Hawkwind - Assault & Battery/The Golden Void
Yes- And You and I
Rush - Jacob's Ladder
IQ - Leap of Faith
Tangerine Dream - Mysterious Semblance at The Strand of Nightmares
Genesis - Cinema Show
Porcupine Tree - The Moon Touches Your Shoulder
Pink Floyd - Sheep
The Flower Kings - The Merrygoround
 
My cd has a bonus free cd of epics too:-
 
Todd Rundgren's Utopia - Theme From Utopia
Pink Floyd - Echoes
Genesis - Firth Of Fifth
The Flower Kings - Stardust We Are
Yes - Awaken
 
Now, that would be some sampler!!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 06:40
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

-20th century schizoid Man....King Crimson  7mns
-Nights in White Satin............Moody Blues     7mns
-Heart of The Sunrise............Yes                     7mns
-The Barbarian........................ELP                    5mns
-Firth OF fIFTH.........................Genesis            8mns
-Robert Wyatt...........................Alifib                   6mns
-Astronomy domine................Pink Floyd         4mns
-my God....................................Jethro Tull         7mns
-Surrounded by the stars.......Amon duul 2.....7mns
-Birds of Fire              ...............Mahavishnu Orchestra            5mns
-Refugees           ......................Vdgg.                  6mns
-Ork alarm..................................Magma              5mns
-Impressione di setembre......PFM                   5mns
-In the court of the CK..............King Crimson..8mns
 
Voila! it clocks at around 80mns..........this is NOT my best of, but the one i would put out if i were a record executiveLOL..............accessible, yet representing a wide horizon of what prog can produce!
 
Alifib are a particularly great band.  Their homage to Robert Wyatt is inspirational and a real collectors item.  I couldn't find a link on Youtube unfortunately.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 06:55
Sorry febus, couldn't resist.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 08:26
I adore Alifib. I would never dare to put it as a sampler for new prog listeners (and I experienced that with my ex-wife many years ago).
My idea would be to put melodic songs and rock songs that are a bit more complicated and show that such music can be much more enjoyable than the regular radio staff. I'll avoid any tough Krautrock, zeuhl or Avant-garde. I guess most of my list will be from the 70's cause I know these much better.
 
1. Deep purple - blind
2. Moody blues - Melencholy man
3. Kansas - Miracles out of nowhere
4. Camel - Rhayader
5. Caravan - Winter wine
6. Genesis - Get'em out by friday
7. Pink floyd - Shine on your crazy diamond pt 1-5
8. Jethro Tull - Locomotive breath
9. King crimson - I talk to the wind
10. Renaissance - Mother Russia
11. Strawbs - The hangman and the papist
12. Spirogyra - Love is a very funny thing
13. Jefferson airplane - Wooden ships
14. Talking heads - Listening wind
15. Magma - Troller tanz (ghost dance)
16. Amon duul II - Henrietta Krotenshvanz.
 
None of them is my favorite but they are all very good songs to start with IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 09:37
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Sorry febus, couldn't resist.
 
LOL..you're forgiven for now.....i would have been as ''bad' the other way aroundWink
 
The good thing is that it shows someone at least read my postsLOLWink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 09:40
Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

I adore Alifib. I would never dare to put it as a sampler for new prog listeners (and I experienced that with my ex-wife many years ago).
My idea would be to put melodic songs and rock songs that are a bit more complicated and show that such music can be much more enjoyable than the regular radio staff. I'll avoid any tough Krautrock, zeuhl or Avant-garde. I guess most of my list will be from the 70's cause I know these much better.
 
1. Deep purple - blind
2. Moody blues - Melencholy man
3. Kansas - Miracles out of nowhere
4. Camel - Rhayader
5. Caravan - Winter wine
6. Genesis - Get'em out by friday
7. Pink floyd - Shine on your crazy diamond pt 1-5
8. Jethro Tull - Locomotive breath
9. King crimson - I talk to the wind
10. Renaissance - Mother Russia
11. Strawbs - The hangman and the papist
12. Spirogyra - Love is a very funny thing
13. Jefferson airplane - Wooden ships
14. Talking heads - Listening wind
15. Magma - Troller tanz (ghost dance)
16. Amon duul II - Henrietta Krotenshvanz.
 
None of them is my favorite but they are all very good songs to start with IMO.
 
Good one too, Omri.....at least you didn't come up with a fanboy listClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2008 at 10:31
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

This one's quite a tough question, and it would also depend upon my target audience.

I'll try my best.

Kansas- "The Pinnacle"
Return to Forever- "Dayride"
Rush- "Red Barchetta"
King Crimson- "Sartori in Tangier"
The Mars Volta- "Ilyena"
Ozric Tentacles- "Coily"
Genesis- "Supper's Ready"
Yes- "Close to the Edge"
Porcupine Tree- "Gravity Eyelids"

Does that work? I'm pretty sure it barely fits the time frame. I could always make certain "editions" too, ones that are more for someone from a metal background, hard rock background, classical, jazz, or whatever. It would be easier that way, but as an entry to prog in general I think this is decent.


Gee, Alex...I don't know where to begin.

The Bedlam in Goliath, to a newbie?  Really?  LOL

"Dad diddley office?"

The first three minutes of "Close to the Edge?"  I can see the poor sap hitting the skip button real quick.

You show no mercy, do you?  You must be a "get off the fence, jackass," type of guy.  I like it!

Can't complain with "The Pinnacle," Wink although I think I have a better Kansas fit- the one that is solely responsible for getting me into (and writing) progressive rock.

I'll post my picks in just a few.

The first 3 minutes of CTTE is the only interesting part of the whole album, and I thought that when I still primarily listened to Pink Floyd. I don't understand the people saying it sucks (well they used to) or saying It's so difficult. It's not RIO or free jazz or 20th century classical here, people...
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