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Poll Question: progressive time signature
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5 [9.43%]
1 [1.89%]
1 [1.89%]
3 [5.66%]
3 [5.66%]
20 [37.74%]
12 [22.64%]
7 [13.21%]
1 [1.89%]
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BLACK HOLE TIME SIGNATURE... NOTHING ESCAPES IT
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7/4 because many prog bands use it, like Tool...
but i like the crazy section in DT's Dance of eternity wich has no time signatures at all, watch Portnoy explain it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jikeIyKaE


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Yeah, 7/4 is pretty groovy to listen to.
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Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

5/4 always feels non-progressive to me, because Radiohead (a non-prog band) uses it a lot...

Wait, they're not Prog?
 
 
LOL
 
Radiohead also use 7/4 on a hit single (Paranoid Android). 
 
Ergo 7/4 can't be Prog OR Radiohead are Prog.
 
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It's crazy fun to play, especially once you can feel it and jam in it without counting.
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How can a time signature being prog. 
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

It's crazy fun to play, especially once you can feel it and jam in it without counting.
 
^ But whenever I play or write stuff in odd time, I am never able to tell exactly what time sig it is. It's weird. Everything I know is self-taught, so the way I am able to detect odd time sigs probably very crude. Oh, well.
 
Isn't Pink Floyd's "Money" in 7/4?


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That's actually good. Playing to a time signature on purpose is something for practice time, it's mechanical, not musical. When you're actually composing, you just play what comes out. I have never written anything in odd time that wasn't a mechanical exercise. I do have a few compound measures where a phrase just sounds better lengthened or shortened. The casual listener shouldn't ever have to think about time signature, it should just flow.
 
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I'm a big fan of 7, but in reality, a mixture of shifting time sigs is a sure sign of Progressiveness, IMO. 7 is almost common time in most of my Prog Favs. The strangest time sig I've seem? 21/16 (thank you Derek Sherinian). Although 17/16 is in the middle of PorcTree's 'Futile'.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

How can a time signature being prog. 
 
That's a very good question. It doesn't really matter for me as long as I can enjoy the music.
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Any time signature that use cleverly always will sound progressive

 

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No time signature surely is always going to be progressive such as Bjork's Joga but as an example signature for prog it would probably 7/4.

3 and 5/4 I always think of folk.



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Easy.  All of them and none of them.

(a quirky time signature does not a prog song make)
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Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Easy.  All of them and none of them.

(a quirky time signature does not a prog song make)

That is true, but it has been a key component. I believe the point of the question is to ask opinion of which is considered the most Prog, given that an unusual time sig is present. 
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The "most" prog???? we can't even decide what is prog at all let alone what is "most" prog.
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

The "most" prog???? we can't even decide what is prog at all let alone what is "most" prog.

LOL
So true!
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127/128 is a pretty brutal time signature.
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I chose 7/4, though I don't know if I call it inherently progressive. ELP had plenty of progressive pieces in standard 4/4.
 
In the music I write, I make a conscious attempt to work with odd times, like 5/4, 7/4, 9/8, 11/8, etc. I like the concentric effect they give the music, making it sound more circular as opposed to boxy.


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Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

127/128 is a pretty brutal time signature.
 
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Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

127/128 is a pretty brutal time signature.
 
Joey Jordison


Yeh but George Kollias taught Jordison how to play in that time signature. George Kollias can can play blastbeats in that time signature with his pinky he's so good
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