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CPicard
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 05:11 |
Iron Maiden, not only because I still listen to them while I'm 30 years old now (while I stop listening to Dream Theater before I was 25) but also because I'm beginning to be sick when watching the number of topics talking about DT.
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 05:43 |
Sorry Maiden, it's just gotta be DT!
I'm no expert bassist but I would reckon Myung to be marginally ahead of Harris. Petrucci is miles ahead of the Maiden guitarists. Portnoy is miles and miles ahead of McBain. Overall, I'd say Maiden's album covers are perhaps slightly superior to DT's.
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 08:31 |
CPicard wrote:
Iron Maiden, not only because I still listen to them while I'm 30 years old now (while I stop listening to Dream Theater before I was 25) but also because I'm beginning to be sick when watching the number of topics talking about DT.
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Wow, same with me, even the ages match perfectly
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CPicard
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 08:39 |
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 08:52 |
TheLastBaron wrote:
1. Bruce Dickinson is a better singer than James Labrie
Dickinson is a shouter.....he belts out lyrics. I really don't think he's a great songer. With LaBrie he does sing well....sometimes. 
2. Steve Harris is a better bassist than John Myung
Maybe......I prefer Harris!
3. Dave Murray and Adrian Smith have more emotion in thier guitar playing than Petrucci and over all I think they have better solos
I simply disagree completely with this. I like Maiden, but most solo's are dull.
4. Even though Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, Nicko Mcbrain is just as good and can easily pull off anything Portnoy can play.
Disagree. McBain is a great drummer though.
5. And even though it has nothing to do with the music, golden era Iron Maiden has better album covers : )
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 11:52 |
they are equal in my book, with Maiden i first started to listen metal, DT was the very first Prog metal band for me
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bsms810
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 13:12 |
Silly poll, I guarantee that if you tried this poll in a metal forum the result would be switched... I still voted mind ;)
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:10 |
Dream Theater hands down.
TheLastBaron wrote:
Personally I enjoy Iron Maiden more for the following reasons( these are just my own opinions): 1. Bruce Dickinson is a better singer than James Labrie Bruce Dickinson has a better range, Labrie is probably more versatile. I'd take Geoff Tate above either though.
2. Steve Harris is a better bassist than John Myung Maybe more to your taste, I quite like Steve Harris' bass playing, but on a technical level no way (watch the DVDs).
3. Dave Murray and Adrian Smith have more emotion in thier guitar playing than Petrucci and over all I think they have better solos I notice you've not said they're better here, as with point 2 it's a matter of taste. Petrucci when he's not doing the technical stuff can do emotion very well - the Hollow Years solo at Live at Budokan springs to mind here. The only Maiden solo I can really get excited about is 'Hallowed Be Thy Name'.
4. Even though Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, Nicko Mcbrain is just as good and can easily pull off anything Portnoy can play. Not in a million years. Nicko McBrain is a fine drummer, but one that doesn't like using double bass pedals, something Portnoy excels at and is heavily used in DT songs. That doesn't make Portnoy a better drummer, but he's got that in his armoury whilst Nicko doesn't. I find Portnoy's drumming is a lot more interesting to listen to.
5. And even though it has nothing to do with the music, golden era Iron Maiden has better album covers : ) Agree with you there. But that's more Derek Riggs vs. Dave McKean, Hugh Syme et al.
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 17:29 |
TheLastBaron wrote:
1. Bruce Dickinson is a better singer than James Labrie
Dickenson has more power and control, IMO, and a richer tone.
2. Steve Harris is a better bassist than John Myung
Not at all - Harris keeps to a more traditional bass style. Not to say he's bad, though.
3. Dave Murray and Adrian Smith have more emotion in thier guitar playing than Petrucci and over all I think they have better solos
My favorite aspect of the Murry & Smith team is when they synchronize, but Petrucci smokes them seven ways to Sunday.
4. Even though Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, Nicko Mcbrain is just as good and can easily pull off anything Portnoy can play.
McBrain is like Harris - keeps it more simple, even if he is good. Portnoy pounds circles around him.
5. And even though it has nothing to do with the music, golden era Iron Maiden has better album covers : )
Having an easily identifiable mascot is always a good marketing decision. The schtick of Eddie got old for me, but the horrorshow nature of it is entertaining. |
DT is a more technical band, which I always appreciate but don't always enjoy. IM is more fun to listen to, but I have never taken them that seriously. So that makes them equal for me.
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 00:16 |
As awesome as Maiden is, its gotta be DT. 1. Pretty much, yea 2. Myung is hard to hear sometimes but he's still better in my book 3. Maiden guitar solos don't sound as diverse as Petrucci's 4. Mcbrain probably COULD pull off what Portnoy plays, however Portnoy playing Mcbrains drum beats would seem easy to him. 5. Black Clouds and Silver Linings is probably the best of DT's, but your right, it can't compare with and Maiden covers 
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 01:47 |
I would like to say that I really enjoy this site because many pf you give very well thought out responses and are respectfull. Its nice to discuss something on the internet without flaming and trolling going on.
I also forgot about the whole Portnoy double bass petal thing. I guess that after more thought I stil enjoy Iron Maiden more but both bands are great.
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 12:32 |
Prefer Maiden. Not because musicians are better, but because their music is better to me.
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 15:55 |
Iron Maiden by far
I loved them as a kid (4 years ago) for different reasons than I love them now, but I love them the same
DT annoys me for the same reason I loved them a few years back
and another factor, Iron Maiden's lyrics are much much much better than Dream Theater's (although both have had some downright terrible lyrics)
but the best lyrics for Maiden are far better than Dream Theater's best imo
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 16:30 |
TheLastBaron wrote:
Personally I enjoy Iron Maiden more for the following reasons( these are just my own opinions):
1. Bruce Dickinson is a better singer than James Labrie
2. Steve Harris is a better bassist than John Myung
3. Dave Murray and Adrian Smith have more emotion in thier guitar playing than Petrucci and over all I think they have better solos
4. Even though Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, Nicko Mcbrain is just as good and can easily pull off anything Portnoy can play.
5. And even though it has nothing to do with the music, golden era Iron Maiden has better album covers : ) |
Ok - Firstly I would like to sat I bought Running Free by Maiden so I was in from the beginning.
1. Yes I agree - Labrie can do some excellent vocals - but he is not consistant enough IMHO
2. Steve Harris is the band leader, so his bass is more to the front. I like his bass too, but Myung again IMHO is more technically gifted. See DT's DVDs
3. Petrucci for me - he can do emotion when he needs to - its the style of Music DT play that negates emotion, although BC&SL is very emotional,
4. No competition - Portnoy rules ok
5. Iron Maiden - but take away Eddie, and their covers are kind of non-descript.
Great bands though - both
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 13:25 |
Oh no! Two of my FAVE bands - what a choice! You do indeed seem a bit biased, TheLastBaron! I too have been a Maiden fan for years, since Number of The Beast in fact, and have only been into Dream Theater since last Christmas. However, I have voted them equal such is the impact DT's music has had on me! As for the comparisons of the band members, here's who would win each category for me:- Singer: Bruce Dickinson (the best singer in the world) Bass: Steve Harris (nothing against Mr. Myung, but Harris is superb) Drums: Mike Portnoy (the best drummer in the world) Guitars: A draw (given that Petrucci is awesome, but Maiden have three of them!) Keyboards: Er, I think Jordan Rudess wins that one!! Nice poll, anyway!
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 16:13 |
Imadofus wrote:
Prefer Maiden. Not because musicians are better, but because their music is better to me.
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 16:25 |
I just realised I omitted the last (but least important) category of album artwork, which I would give to Maiden, especially for this one:-
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 17:00 |
Iron Maiden, but DT are very enjoyable
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 17:58 |
TheLastBaron wrote:
Before I got into Dream Theater a freind told me that I would enjoy them more than Iron Maiden. I'm a huge Iron Maiden fan and have been for some time. Well I've been into Dream Theater for about a year now. Yet when I listen to my favorite Iron Maiden albums and my favorite Dream Theater albums, I still enjoy Iron Maiden more. I might be a bit bias because I've been into Iron Maiden for years.
So who do you like better and why?
Personally I enjoy Iron Maiden more for the following reasons( these are just my own opinions):
1. Bruce Dickinson is a better singer than James Labrie
2. Steve Harris is a better bassist than John Myung
3. Dave Murray and Adrian Smith have more emotion in thier guitar playing than Petrucci and over all I think they have better solos
4. Even though Mike Portnoy is an amazing drummer, Nicko Mcbrain is just as good and can easily pull off anything Portnoy can play.
5. And even though it has nothing to do with the music, golden era Iron Maiden has better album covers : ) |
I go for Maiden, as for your list 1. Definitely true (by far IMHO) 2. I'd say different, notn better but I prefer his bass playing (just a matter of taste) 3. They probably do - I can't comment on the overall part, they have all produced great solos 4. Completely false IMO 5. Agree 100% (although I like I&W cover)
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