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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:35

Waters here. At least Genesis did Trick and Wind/Wuthering.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:42

I think you can make a legitimate argument for Portnoy, seeing as how Prog music may be on the decline, and Dream Theater are arguably a strong thread that is holding what is left of it together.............

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:47

Easy - Waters leaving Floyd.

Honorable mention to Phil Collins leaving Genesis (not a choice here). I can easily enjoy the band without Gabriel and even Hackett, but the album with Ray Wilson singing just did not sit well with me...

Edited by HolyMoly - September 08 2010 at 21:49

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:49

Wow this is the first i've heard of this Jim. Shocking for me to say the least. I don't know if he'd want the job but the first guy i thought of to replace him was Mark Zonder.

As for the poll Waters is my choice.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:50

Definitely Gabriel leaving Genesis...I wasn't alive at the time but I'm sure it must have been heart-wrenching.

And upon hearing today's news about Mike leaving DT, I'd say his departure isn't far behind as the most devastating.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:51

OK, Gabriel voters......do you really think the two post-Waters PF albums are better than Trick of the Tail and Wind/Wuthering?

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:53

I can't look at it that way. I look at how the solo artist turned out compared to the band he left. Quite frankly, none of the options on the list are a big deal to me.

I'm pretty content. Smile

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:57

Finnforest wrote:

OK, Gabriel voters......do you really think the two post-Waters PF albums are better than Trick of the Tail and Wind/Wuthering?

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 21:58

Epignosis wrote:

I can't look at it that way. I look at how the solo artist turned out compared to the band he left. Quite frankly, none of the options on the list are a big deal to me.

I'm pretty content. Smile

But the poll was about the band, not the guy who left it.

Edited by Finnforest - September 08 2010 at 22:24

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:06

HolyMoly wrote:

Easy - Waters leaving Floyd.

Well Said!

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:14

Epignosis wrote:

Finnforest wrote:

^ Not sure it couldn't be a valid opinion, if they believe the guy is the heart and soul of the group and they will not recover, they could make the case DT is crippled, perhaps moreso in their opinion than the other historical ones, most of which survived the departures in some respect.

Damn, how's that for a run-on sentence LOL

All I meant was that only time and perspective can help us judge something like this.

Oh by the way I'm leaving Epignosis.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:30

Lark the Starless wrote:

Definitely Gabriel leaving Genesis...I wasn't alive at the time but I'm sure it must have been heart-wrenching.

And upon hearing today's news about Mike leaving DT, I'd say his departure isn't far behind as the most devastating.

What you said

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:47

Drew wrote:

I think you can make a legitimate argument for Portnoy, seeing as how Prog music may be on the decline, and Dream Theater are arguably a strong thread that is holding what is left of it together.............

Quite the contrary. Prog is the biggest it's been in quite some time and will certainly go on with or without DT.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:50

Gabriel's departure was indeed devastating, but Hackett's was even more so. If was after Hackett left that Genesis really began to go downhill.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:53

Anthony H. wrote:

Gabriel's departure was indeed devastating, but Hackett's was even more so. If was after Hackett left that Genesis really began to go downhill.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 22:57

From the bands I know, DT, Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis, I think they all had already done the best they could do together, and the departures only helped them to do something different from what they had already been doing, though not everybody may like the new aproches taken by the bands (well, we still don't know about DT). So, I'm not sure it was a bad thing at all. A sad break-up for some people may be Barrett (being forced) to leave Pink Floyd, because they were just beginning and any greatness they might have achieved together was lost (however, I myself don't think I would have liked that as much as I love the Waters-Gilmour albums). Also, the original King Crimson line-up only lasting for one album... but then, they achieved more than most bands with only that album, and they may not have been able to improve in it if they had remained together anyway. Portnoy leaving DT really came as a shock to me... I was rather expecting (and almost even wishin) LaBrie leaving first.

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Posted: September 08 2010 at 23:04

From the list

Gabriel leaving Genesis , well really was a process, started with Gabriel and ended with Hackett leaving the band, probably the same thing would had happened if Hackett had left before, the band could musically survive witthout one of them, but not without the two

Fish leaving Marillion

Lets not forget Walsh leaving Kansas, at least Steinhardt was replaced by an excellent violin player like Ragsdale.

As a fact I like "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" a lot, so no, Waters was not that devastatimng IMO.

Iván

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - September 08 2010 at 23:18

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Posted: September 09 2010 at 02:00

Looking at the replacements and at what the bands did after the departures, I say Gabriel.

It could have been Waters, but a song like High Hopes means that his leaving was not so devastating.

Fish leaving was a pity more for himself than for the band. Marillion had the good idea of changing their sound and become something different instead of trying to just replace the frontman, then you cal like Hogarth or not.

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Posted: September 09 2010 at 02:32

Mike Portnoy leaving DT will bring an end to the world
And it will be a most painful end, I hope he's happy and enjoys his time with avenged sevenfold Dead

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Posted: September 09 2010 at 04:56

John Bonham leaving Led Zepp or Freddie Mercury leaving Queen Tongue

Poll Question: Which was the biggest blow to the band's soul/relevence at the time?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Mike Portnoy leaving DT	15	[8.98%]
Fish leaving Marillion	16	[9.58%]
Anderson leaving Yes	10	[5.99%]
Waters leaving Floyd	41	[24.55%]
Gabriel leaving Genesis	81	[48.50%]
Ozzy leaving Sabbath	2	[1.20%]
Ingber exiting the Mothers ;)	2	[1.20%]
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