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Posted: April 09 2013 at 14:37
The reason why I dislike it is mainly in the track Suffocation which I find ridiculous (also because I'm Italian and I understand the crap that Krisma say, and Jon Anderson in the last minute of the track is surely not enough. It has some goods, indeed. The first version of Memories of Green which was reused on Blade Runner is a great track, but I find the rest of the album quite awful.
I'm a fan since Heaven and Hell, the first Vangelis album that I have purchased, and See You Later is the only album that I have never kept on the turntable for all its length, also because I always skip Suffocation.
Of course, I hated Enola Gay.
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 02:02
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The reason why I dislike it is mainly in the track Suffocation which I find ridiculous (also because I'm Italian and I understand the crap that Krisma say, and Jon Anderson in the last minute of the track is surely not enough. It has some goods, indeed. The first version of Memories of Green which was reused on Blade Runner is a great track, but I find the rest of the album quite awful.
I'm a fan since Heaven and Hell, the first Vangelis album that I have purchased, and See You Later is the only album that I have never kept on the turntable for all its length, also because I always skip Suffocation.
Of course, I hated Enola Gay.
yeah it probably helps that I can't understand Italian
I thought you would pick Not a bit , all of it as the 'dud' track. That was maybe Vangelis doing an ELP type 'fun track'.
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 04:18
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 14:01
octopus-4 wrote:
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[man:] "listen, I go out... and I try to reach block 14, because... it's necessary. yesterday I have seen paul and..."
[woman:] "and his girlfriend? "
[man:] "nothing, didn't make it, she didn't make it"
[woman:] "don't you say so"
[man:] "but anyhow so I take a... so the protective suit... and hope it will be sufficient"
[woman:] "only the protective suit, maybe it's better you also take the mask, what do you think? "
[man:] "o.k., so I leave now"
[woman:] "no, it's better to wait a quarter of an hour, 20 minutes before going out, so it will be darker"
[man:] "i look outside how things are"
[woman:] "yes look outside now" "did you look outside what happens? "
[man:] "nothing"
[woman:] "nothing? what do you mean nothing, is there anybody out? "
[man:] "no, everything the same like before. seems nothing is changing. in fact it's worthwhile trying. give it to me!"
[woman:] "yes, yes, all right, I'll bring it to you, all right, yes, yes, I go"
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 15:02
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I wouldn't suggest See You Later which I consider to be the poorest album released by Vangelis. Direct and The City are excellent and...well I'm a sort of fanboy, so everything fits for me...
I quite enjoyed Direct and The City, but my favorite is China and is full of synths. I typically like most of his work also.
One suggestion that may fly under the radar is Genesis's..And Then There Were Three. Full of moogy snythed moments. Down and Out song is one of my favorites.
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 15:35
Anything from Sleeping in Traffic Part 1, Sleeping in Traffic Part 2 and Mammoth. (and everything in between, I'd assume. Only really familiar with those three.)
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Posted: April 10 2013 at 17:03
It`s not prog, but some of early Gary Numan stuff sounds proggy...Also some The Sparks songs... Someone mention Tangerine Dream...I could mention some Space tunes (old French electronica with prog and fussion touch)...Serbian keyboard player Laza Ristovski has a few great synth oriented prog albums. In fussion prog waters, i would recomend Dutch band Anomaly (they have recorded only one but great instrumental album with fascinating keyboard parts that are a little bit more represented than guitars)...I have also consider Saga, IQ, Arena and early Marillion as more keyboard oriented bands. Maybe some composers that write non prog parts with many prog and psichodelic elements inside, like jerry Goldsmith in the movie Logan`s Run. Gerschon Kingsley, Jeff wayne and Alan parsons has many synth oriented prog elements in many songs. Mike Oldfield also. What about Jan Hammer`s music for Miami Vice and lot`s of music for 80`es sitcoms and movies. Eric Norlander is pure example of most synth prog parts in his music. Maybe some A.C.T. songs.... Arjen Lucassen songs too...Check also Beto Vasquez albums and Canadian band Birthday Massacre (not prog; they are synth rock but have some prog elements...).
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Posted: April 11 2013 at 01:58
AEProgman wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
I wouldn't suggest See You Later which I consider to be the poorest album released by Vangelis. Direct and The City are excellent and...well I'm a sort of fanboy, so everything fits for me...
I quite enjoyed Direct and The City, but my favorite is China and is full of synths. I typically like most of his work also.
One suggestion that may fly under the radar is Genesis's..And Then There Were Three. Full of moogy snythed moments. Down and Out song is one of my favorites.
China was my favourite Vangelis album for a long time. Its probably the best balanced of all his albums and you are taken on journey through electronica , traditional sounding Chinese music and the very wonderful atmospeheric Himalaya. The only albums I put above it are El Greco ( solid gold masterpeice) , Voices ( just so warm and lovely) and Mask ( his best imo). To make a top five I would add Heaven and Hell.
I love And Then There Were Three probably as much for the drumming as anything. Banks was never big on using synths like Emerson or Wakeman did. Probably a good shout for his best synth album though.
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Posted: April 11 2013 at 15:23
^ Yes it does.... I had not heard of Collegium Musicum before, from what I have just read on them here in PA, I am going to have to check them out. Thanks for the mention!
^^El Greco is one that I have not heard, even after all these years...I guess I need to get that too .
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 23:16
^ Collegium was excellent, on the ever growing list. I am familiar with Naicin, gotta love that Hammond!
Par Lindh I had not heard of but still good, but can see where that would get old quick...
Isao reminded me a lot of Kitaro, which I used to get into a while back...the sound is similar.
This thread has led me back to listening to Vangelis again as I had forgotten how much I like his stuff, got into Spiral today as well as Heaven and Hell...good stuff! I have to get a few others of his that I never got, El Greco, Soil Festivities for starters.
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 02:42
Tangerine Dream have made some very decent albums in recent years having come out of their 90's stagnation period.
I like Booster , Seven Letters From Tibet , Views From A Red Train , Purgatorio and the recent Edgar Allen Poe's Island Of The Fay. Thankfully they have now rid themselves of the horrible saxaphone that has no place in electronic music imo. I'm going to check out their latest release Finnegan's Wake today. Samples sound good.
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 07:54
Here's one by Tony McPhee, forsaking his trademark progressive blues guitar for banks of synthesisers for a 20 minute epic (this is indeed very heavy, though not in in the sense of the OP question):
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 08:29
Check out early IQ, especially "The Wake" and "Tales from the Lush Attic", loads of synthesizer solos. Also recordings of "Pictures from an Exhibition" by both ELP and Tomita.
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 15:08
richardh wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
The reason why I dislike it is mainly in the track Suffocation which I find ridiculous (also because I'm Italian and I understand the crap that Krisma say, and Jon Anderson in the last minute of the track is surely not enough. It has some goods, indeed. The first version of Memories of Green which was reused on Blade Runner is a great track, but I find the rest of the album quite awful.
I'm a fan since Heaven and Hell, the first Vangelis album that I have purchased, and See You Later is the only album that I have never kept on the turntable for all its length, also because I always skip Suffocation.
Of course, I hated Enola Gay.
yeah it probably helps that I can't understand Italian
I thought you would pick Not a bit , all of it as the 'dud' track. That was maybe Vangelis doing an ELP type 'fun track'.
btw I loved Enola Gay
Thought I was the only one who remotely liked OMD. I don't love Enola Gay but I love the album it comes from Organisation. It was recorded after the death of Ian Curtis and they knew Joy Division quite well so the album came out pretty dark (once you get past Enola Gay which is not exactly happy).
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octopus-4 wrote:
. I had not heard of Collegium Musicum before, from what I have just read on them here in PA, I am going to have to check them out. Thanks for the mention!
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