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eugene
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 13:54 |
Meddler wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
The Mars Volta: You've done enough damage already! Please move on! 
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What?!
2 albums is hardly enough damage. 
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Yeah, quite...and bearing in mind that their last album is better than the previous one, I'd say they are very much welcome to continue to gladden our ears with their music....
...and what "enough damage" they've caused to stonebeard - that's beyond me....
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 14:01 |
eugene wrote:
Meddler wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
The Mars Volta: You've done enough damage already! Please move on! 
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What?!
2 albums is hardly enough damage. 
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Yeah, quite...and bearing in mind that their last album is better than the previous one, I'd say they are very much welcome to continue to gladden our ears with their music....
...and what "enough damage" they've caused to stonebeard - that's beyond me....
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I liked De-Loused a bit, but Frances the Mute is probably the worst piece of unlistenable musical randomness I've ever heard in my life. 
This is my opinion. I don't want to appear to be a troll like one person in perticular in this thread...
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CaincelaOreinim
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:01 |
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the uninitiated, Crimson have 'hung it up' practically every evolution
of the band; one might say after every album. As of now they're
in hiatus and will make their return in '07 as no doubt another
re-vamped edition.
Those who are so zealous as to cling like leeches to the past are bound
to be disappointed. How does one expect to grow if you're stuck
in a certain time period consistantly? Your tastes are certainly
adventurous and varied, I must say... Fripp for the most part,
just judging by his diaries (after all who truly knows the guy), has no
intentions of reliving the past and honestly, I feel, good for him.
I, in relation to the overriding topic, can't really think of a band
I'd like to see give it up. Sure, I'd like to see some bands I've
enjoyed return with better albums (Rush, Dream Theater) but I certainly
don't want people to quit making music...certainly an insulting
request...
Maybe that's how the intial topic should have begun, not who we'd like
to see quit (because really, are you that idle to waste your time
writing about bands you don't like? ingenuously the answer appears to
be yes) but who we'd like to see improve/can do better?
My Runner Ups: Mars Volta, Tool, Rush, King Crimson, Gordian
Knot, Dream Theater, Flower Kings (after Paradox I'm a bit worried),
and Pain Of Salvation come to mind.
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:06 |
Meddler wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
The Mars Volta: You've done enough damage already! Please move on! 
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What?!
2 albums is hardly enough damage. 
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Britney Spears should DIE !!!... The Mars Volta is a band with a savage nature; perhaps a bit much to loud, but they are a weird band, and that's enough for me... and I love both albums, they are so extrange and idiosincratic... that's always a nice thing to be.
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:08 |
Dream Theater are still young men!!
That is absurd!!
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:09 |
CaincelaOreinim wrote:
For the uninitiated, Crimson have 'hung it up' practically every evolution of the band; one might say after every album. As of now they're in hiatus and will make their return in '07 as no doubt another re-vamped edition.
Those who are so zealous as to cling like leeches to the past are bound to be disappointed. How does one expect to grow if you're stuck in a certain time period consistantly? Your tastes are certainly adventurous and varied, I must say... Fripp for the most part, just judging by his diaries (after all who truly knows the guy), has no intentions of reliving the past and honestly, I feel, good for him.
I, in relation to the overriding topic, can't really think of a band I'd like to see give it up. Sure, I'd like to see some bands I've enjoyed return with better albums (Rush, Dream Theater) but I certainly don't want people to quit making music...certainly an insulting request...
Maybe that's how the intial topic should have begun, not who we'd like to see quit (because really, are you that idle to waste your time writing about bands you don't like? ingenuously the answer appears to be yes) but who we'd like to see improve/can do better?
My Runner Ups: Mars Volta, Tool, Rush, King Crimson, Gordian Knot, Dream Theater, Flower Kings (after Paradox I'm a bit worried), and Pain Of Salvation come to mind.
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Exactly. IQ are wonderfull musicians... ¿why aren't they creating something beyond their actual static point? They should visit The Mars volta and catch some of that polyrithmic weirdness... leave us just one more delicated gift...
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Petary791
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 20:36 |
ROLLING STONES.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 22:36 |
stonebeard wrote:
King Crimson: Sart writing symphonic music again (rehash the glory days of the 70s???)
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You know that will never happen again, right? I think that the past two albums were great, and I can't wait till they start recording next September.
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hamham
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 01:50 |
HeirToRuin wrote:
Yes, they did...Octavarium...
All but the title track were a bunch of unimaginative common ideas
getting rehashed and all sounding like really good songs that other
bands would be better suited to play. It included as close of a
ripoff to the band Muse as is possible to do without being Muse.
Other heavily borrowed acts include Megadeth on track 1, Linkin Park on
track 3, Coldplay on track 4, Muse somewhat on track 5 as well as 6,
and practically every major prog band of the 70s and Spock's Beard in
the title track (which really was a cool song...the only really strong
thing to come out of the album...and that's saying alot because the
first 12 minutes seem to go on forever). |
presentation aside, i do hope you at least realize that the 'mimicing' other group's sound was their intention, lol
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 10:33 |
I just wanted you to know how sad is to create such a fine joke as the one referred to someone who, earlier on this thread, said that Dreamtheater was nothing but musical instrument's masturbation, to whom I quoted, to then ask if musical instrument's masturbation was something possible to achieve with an Ukelele, being myself an owner of such a small and somewhat ridiculous instrument, etc... tough auddience...
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W.Chuck
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 10:47 |
hamham wrote:
HeirToRuin wrote:
Yes, they did...Octavarium...
All but the title track were a bunch of unimaginative common ideas
getting rehashed and all sounding like really good songs that other
bands would be better suited to play. It included as close of a
ripoff to the band Muse as is possible to do without being Muse.
Other heavily borrowed acts include Megadeth on track 1, Linkin Park on
track 3, Coldplay on track 4, Muse somewhat on track 5 as well as 6,
and practically every major prog band of the 70s and Spock's Beard in
the title track (which really was a cool song...the only really strong
thing to come out of the album...and that's saying alot because the
first 12 minutes seem to go on forever). | presentation aside, i do hope you at least realize that the 'mimicing' other group's sound was their intention, lol |
oh really, so you think that you can "steel" every music
as long as it's your intention to sound like them?
That is by far not a reason to justify it.
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 10:58 |
W.Chuck wrote:
hamham wrote:
HeirToRuin wrote:
Yes, they did...Octavarium...
All but the title track were a bunch of unimaginative common ideas getting rehashed and all sounding like really good songs that other bands would be better suited to play. It included as close of a ripoff to the band Muse as is possible to do without being Muse. Other heavily borrowed acts include Megadeth on track 1, Linkin Park on track 3, Coldplay on track 4, Muse somewhat on track 5 as well as 6, and practically every major prog band of the 70s and Spock's Beard in the title track (which really was a cool song...the only really strong thing to come out of the album...and that's saying alot because the first 12 minutes seem to go on forever). | presentation aside, i do hope you at least realize that the 'mimicing' other group's sound was their intention, lol |
oh really, so you think that you can "steel" every music as long as it's your intention to sound like them? That is by far not a reason to justify it. |
Another point... ¿should bands justify themselves? ¿or their creations?. I often try to at least sense a trace of poetic construction beneath the notes, the polyrythm, the music anoxia (?), the paranoia and the artistic struggle... the pain, etc...
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 11:01 |
Dr Know wrote:
Dream Theater are still young men!!
That is absurd!!
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It is absurd for Dreamtheater members to still be young men?, or were you looking by the window while writting, and, at the exact moment when your first sentence was written, you saw a man getting married with a Tree, both disguised as puding?
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 12:23 |
^^^^
What the hell are you talking about?
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Evolver
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 13:18 |
Why should any band that still enjoys what they are doing "hang it up"?
I used to have a theory that when an artist starts playing songs about how horrible it is to be in the business, that maybe it was time to retire. But then we would have missed all those Pink Floyd albums.
Edited by Evolver
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 13:25 |
Dr Know wrote:
^^^^
What the hell are you talking about?
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It's a joke. I'll explain. It is supposed to divide your post in two. The first part is the answer to that Dreamtheater comment. The second part is supposed to be soemthing you wrote because in that exact moment, on your window, something strange whas taking place (the unatural wedding between a human being and a tree, both in disguises)...
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Zweck
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:15 |
cuncuna wrote:
I just wanted you to know how sad is to create such a fine joke as the one referred to someone who, earlier on this thread, said that Dreamtheater was nothing but musical instrument's masturbation, to whom I quoted, to then ask if musical instrument's masturbation was something possible to achieve with an Ukelele, being myself an owner of such a small and somewhat ridiculous instrument, etc... tough auddience...
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Instrument masturbation is playing really fast, but without anything really interesting happening, JUST LIKE REAL MASTURBATION!
Let's imagine stud-like guitaris X, he's playin' a'real fast up and a'down the neck of his guitar, if he persists it looks rather like he's giving the guitar a handjob. Offcourse you can do it on the ukulele! I do it on my balalaika all the time!
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:30 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:40 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
King Crimson: Sart writing symphonic music again (rehash the glory days of the 70s???)
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You know that will never happen again, right? I think that the past two albums were great, and I can't wait till they start recording next September.
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Yeah, I know. TPTB was good, but it's just not like the old symphonic days. 
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aprusso
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:44 |
Yes. better to finish while you're still good. Rush can go for other 10 years.
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