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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 13:56 |
Uncle Fish. If you listen to any live recordings with him on it, he can really communicate with the crowd and he really pushes the band to play their best.
Edited by Cygnus X-2 - July 25 2006 at 13:57
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Fassbinder
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 14:15 |
BaldFriede wrote:
When did VdGG ever go mainstream?
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Never.
But they didn't exist as a group when other groups went mainstream.
BTW, VdGG is not considered by many as one of the great groups. This fact causes me to some ambiguous feelings: on one hand -- how can you pass by this wonderful group; on the other hand -- well, continue not to count them, let it for the initiated only (kind of "elitistic" attitude).
Edited by Fassbinder - July 25 2006 at 14:35
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kebjourman
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Posted: July 25 2006 at 23:19 |
id say fripp
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Australian
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Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:11 |
Robert Fripp, he is of course the man who invented true prog rock.
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omri
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 17:58 |
Sorry if it sounds rude but who cares about those details ?
I am interested in the music (and lyrics) and I could'nt care less of the behaviour of whoever you wrote there.
I thought dominant mean influencial so I voted for Fripp. The question who is more ego maniak is not relevant for me !
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 18:16 |
Funny contrast: a "dominant person" and "those details" .. 
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Fassbinder
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Posted: July 29 2006 at 18:40 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Funny contrast: a "dominant person" and "those details" ..  |
A result of the word-to-word translation, maybe?
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omri
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 15:51 |
No Fassbinder ! The details are who behaved more rudely. The dominancy is about the music. The contrast is built in in my post between the unimportancy of what this poll is all about and the music which is very important for me and I guess to all of us.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 15:58 |
If you consider this poll as unimportant, please don't join it with your meaningless contribution  !
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omri
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 17:01 |
I joined it by mistake. The only reason I posted again was your's statement about the contrast which I tried to explain where it came from. As I said in my first post it is irrelevant for me and you may think else. The thing is you were trying to make fun of my english instead of either argue about the context or ignore it.
Check your self man !
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sbrushfan
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 17:42 |
Alright, alright...retract the claws please. This is an OPINION forum, and whether or not you agree with it is really of no consequence. Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one.
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Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced...
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toolis
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 05:01 |
i don't know how do you mean "dominant" but Fripp couldn't be one cause he always gave his fellow musicians a lot of "space" even though he was the mastermind of KC...
i think mr Waters' insanity/genius deserves this title...
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gong
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:01 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
The last days I have seen a lot of Inside Of .. dvd's (Yes, ELP, King Crimson) and again I was stunned what an incredible impact the position and opinion of one person had on the development of a group and or the musical direction of an album. If you take a look at the history there are so many examples of 'ego clashes', 'narcistic behaviour' and 'ego-gratification':
* Jon Anderson and his Far-Eastern philosophical ideas on Tales From Topografic Oceans, eventually Rick Wakeman left Yes because of the musical direction.
* Peter Gabriel his Rael concept ideas, eventually Peter Gabriel left because of the huge tensions between him and the rest of the band
* Phil Collins his commercial musical ideas from And Then There Were Three, eventually Genesis turned from a symphonic rock formation into pop-prog band
* Bryan Ferry had problems with Eddie Jobson's popularity, eventually Jobson left Roxy Music
* Roger Waters wanted to control everything during The Wall, eventually he left Pink Floyd very frustrated
* Greg Lake and Keith Emerson had many clashes because of their huge ego's in ELP
* Fish got more and more problems with his emotions and drinking in Marillion, clashed with his band mates en eventually went solo
* Ritchie Blackmore used very unpredictable behaviour to impress his members in Deep Purple
* Ian Anderson is known as a person who wants to control .. so the popular and demanding Eddie Jobson left Jethro Tull is said ..
* John Wetton and Eddie Jobson clashed in Uk about the musical direction
* Robert Fripp behaved himself very unpleasant when it didn't work out as he wished (not talking for days, playing the same scales for hours, offending persons very badly, acting very passive-agressive)
What are your thoughts about these facts?
And what's your dominant progrock personality # 1? |
i agree with all of that.
my dominant progrock personality is Frank Zappa.
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Sloth
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Posted: August 28 2006 at 21:17 |
Robert Fripp no contest
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BUH!!! It's what the Buffalo say!
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Melomaniac
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 10:23 |
Fripp without a doubt...
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Godfrey
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Posted: August 29 2006 at 10:33 |
Roger, of course.
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