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Valarius
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 03:22 |
I voted yes.
They are my favourite band, EVER! I know we all have different opinions, and I respect that, but to me, they are perfect!
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 04:06 |
It's fairly obvious to me that Dream Theater, by the general controversy that they seem to provoke, are IMPORTANT and RELEVANT producers of modern Prog/Metal, they seem to be either Loved or Loathed there is no grey area, which suggests a sort of consistency in their style/production.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 05:56 |
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Emperor
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:12 |
I've said YES. Yes, maybe the band is a bit overrated, but I really enjoy them listening Metropolis-II (one of my favorite albums of 90s at all!), also 89, 92, 94 albums and 93 and Scenes' concerts. I still never heard their last two stodio albums.
Though their 97 album is a crap to me... Anyway the band is very good! 
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I Prophesy Disaster...
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:48 |
Almost 50/50 now - That'll upset Reed Lover (I can't understand anybody liking 70's Rush not liking DT) - I love them both, DT were surely influenced by Rush.....
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:49 |
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Richardw
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:56 |
YES. Great musicians. Great songs. Nuff said.
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:56 |
How do you know he's not 2M tall and weighing in at 120 Kg's ?? and can bench press the combined weight of a Swinton Pubs Darts team*
* - EU weight equivalent (1 Tonne!)
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 06:57 |
Yes it's 50/50 - Well done RichardW.....
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Azrael2112
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 08:23 |
I myself voted yes. I enjoy MOST of their output. I own every album, and
take the good with the bad. I generally am not a fan of the type of metal
that influences their music.
It really does seem that you either love or hate them. But to the starter of
the topic. Who I know for a fact, does not own any of their albums, cept
the first one I believe? (Am I right on this, Chris?) Anyway, I really think
that his judgments are being based of a few snippets that he heard many
years ago, and a few that I've played for him. If you can't get over the
guitar stylings and singing, well it just isnt the music for you. But if you
CAN get over that and let it grow on you and actually listen to it, you will
hear that alot of their output is really prog, with metal tendacies. Not the
other way around.
(and no it is not "shred-metal prog")
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Spartacus
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 08:52 |
Azrael2112 wrote:
I myself voted yes. I enjoy MOST of their output. I own every album, and take the good with the bad. I generally am not a fan of the type of metal that influences their music. It really does seem that you either love or hate them. But to the starter of the topic. Who I know for a fact, does not own any of their albums, cept the first one I believe? (Am I right on this, Chris?) Anyway, I really think that his judgments are being based of a few snippets that he heard many years ago, and a few that I've played for him. If you can't get over the guitar stylings and singing, well it just isnt the music for you. But if you CAN get over that and let it grow on you and actually listen to it, you will hear that alot of their output is really prog, with metal tendacies. Not the other way around.
(and no it is not "shred-metal prog")  |
I have owned When Dream and Day Unite, A Change of Seasons, and Awake, have being the key word. In college I had a friend who always tried to turn me on to DT, Savatage, and Steve Vai which he called "the maturation of prog." I tried to understand this brand of prog but I just could not hear any inspiration in the music. I guess I just like my prog in it's immature stages. Now I am not completly turned off by this metal subgenre, I do enjoy OSI, Mastermind, and Enchant.
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Azrael2112
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 08:56 |
Spartacus wrote:
Azrael2112 wrote:
I myself voted yes. I enjoy
MOST of their output. I own every album, and take the good with the bad.
I generally am not a fan of the type of metal that influences their music. It
really does seem that you either love or hate them. But to the starter of
the topic. Who I know for a fact, does not own any of their albums, cept
the first one I believe? (Am I right on this, Chris?) Anyway, I really think
that his judgments are being based of a few snippets that he heard many
years ago, and a few that I've played for him. If you can't get over the
guitar stylings and singing, well it just isnt the music for you. But if you
CAN get over that and let it grow on you and actually listen to it, you will
hear that alot of their output is really prog, with metal tendacies. Not the
other way around. (and no it is not "shred-metal prog")  |
I have owned When Dream and Day Unite, A Change of Seasons, and
Awake, have being the key word. In college I had a friend who always
tried to turn me on to DT, Savatage, and Steve Vai which he called "the
maturation of prog." I tried to understand this brand of prog but I just
could not hear any inspiration in the music. I guess I just like my prog in
it's immature stages. Now I am not completly turned off by this metal
subgenre, I do enjoy OSI, Mastermind, and Enchant. |
Then you should listen to Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence....Seriously.
And get some Fates Warning, dammit! not the early stuff though...
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Valarius
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 09:41 |
What he said.
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FloydWright
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 09:56 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
It's fairly obvious to me that Dream Theater, by the general controversy that they seem to provoke, are IMPORTANT and RELEVANT producers of modern Prog/Metal, they seem to be either Loved or Loathed there is no grey area, which suggests a sort of consistency in their style/production. |
LOL, I think there IS grey area, and I'm sitting right in it. It's funny...I gave Awake 5 stars and it deserves it, and I think Train of Thought will get a good review from me (4?), and Images and Words will probably get at least 3...but Scenes from a Memory--I'm sorry, but I just lack the patience to sit through it. I'm concerned Six Degrees suffers from the same problem, too, and that's why I won't spend the money to buy it.
How are they while Sherinian is in the band? Do they go as "all-out" as once Rudess joins? Or do they still retain some discipline from the Moore era?
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Valarius
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:04 |
They recorded "A Change of Season" with Derek Sherinian, if that explains anything. I'd definately recommend that! They also recorded "Falling Into Infinity" with him, and he appeared on the "Once In a Livetime" live CD.
Although he is a great Keyboard player, for some reason I don't really consider him to have contributed anything to Dream Theater.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:19 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
How do you know he's not 2M tall and weighing in at 120 Kg's ?? and can bench press the combined weight of a Swinton Pubs Darts team*
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Well I'm heading towards 120KGs rapidly Swinny!
Bolton lads are 'ard from birth lad, not like you manky Mancs 
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:21 |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:22 |
chorus of one wrote:
I hate Train Of Thought.  |
You're a woman, you dont have a train of thought.

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tuxon
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:43 |
Common knowledge, people loath what they can't have.
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 31 2005 at 10:55 |
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