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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:35
^ I'm with you here. As I was saying a couple of posts above, the lick is repeated 4 times (alternately playing D and D#) and then a different section begins (a verse, technically) in C#min (actually alternating between C# minor and A major). The D# could be seen as part of a melody line in C# natural minor: E D# B C#. The C#min IMO provides the required "relief" for the "shock" of the - for the E minor / D major situation - offending note. In a way the D# could really be seen as a hint of things to come ... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:40
Please everyone go listen to some Merzbow and let's get over this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:11
^ at least when listening to Merzbow you immediately identify the wrong note(s) ... Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:14
The challenge with Merzbow is finding a 'right' note.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:15
So there are notes in Merzbow?

This is actually a serious question... though probably a seriously stupid one as well...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:16
^ or indeed any note (as such) to begin with ... LOL

To give those who may not know Merzbow some idea of what we're talking about:

http://www.myspace.com/merzbow777
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:27

Ah! That's the answer - the D# is the right note - all the other's are wrong - that's why Cert doesn't like the album LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:39
some Merzbow material indeed has notes
sampled progressive rock or else perhaps violins(?) in the days when Merzbow had more than just one member
some of the loops he uses more recently might accidentally give rise to a "key" of sorts too, and devout fans of his early work despise his digital stuff for that reason...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:46
^ Well yeah, given the fact that he has some 86509685065923435 releases out, there's bound to be a note or two out there,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 16:01
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

(...)  It simply sticks out like a turd on a truffle and leaves you wondering what the hell they were thinking putting it in there for in the first place. 
 
Oh well put, sir!!!!
 
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Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Ah! That's the answer - the D# is the right note - all the other's are wrong - that's why Cert doesn't like the album LOL

 
Very sharp Wink
 
Actually it was because the whole album feels a bit flat to me Shocked ... I'm not sure about diatonic - more like dire-tonic Pinch. Can I suggest it's barred Ouch? Or is that not an acceptable resolution? Dead
 
Still, it's got people discussing the album and listening to it loads of times - which is ALWAYS good news for a new release. Smile


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Just trying to put things in perspective.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Music Theory


I can think of a hundred songs that disobey music theory, but that doesn't make them "wrong" as such. If the artist meant to put that particular note in then it's nothing but "right".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:56
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ or indeed any note (as such) to begin with ... LOL

To give those who may not know Merzbow some idea of what we're talking about:

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^^ He'd fail my electronic composition  class. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 20:32
Originally posted by Trademark Trademark wrote:

^^ He'd fail my electronic composition  class. LOL
 
He would probably fail a pancake-baking class....the guy thinks he's making good music.....how much more delussional can one get?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 04:39
Some people prefer Merzbow to (insert name of your favourite band here).
"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 04:54
Kibble_Alex - artists can disobey music theory all they want, as long as they follow logic (see Trademark's posts on the previous page)

The_T - it's hard to tell what Merzbow thinks about his work, especially whether he considers it music or not. From what I've read in his interviews, he just doesn't seem to care.

Now, a Merzbow pancake would be something else entirely LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 05:07
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by darqDean darqDean wrote:

Ah! That's the answer - the D# is the right note - all the other's are wrong - that's why Cert doesn't like the album LOL

 
Very sharp Wink
 
Actually it was because the whole album feels a bit flat to me Shocked ... I'm not sure about diatonic - more like dire-tonic Pinch. Can I suggest it's barred Ouch? Or is that not an acceptable resolution? Dead
Oh dear - I don't think that was accidental, to stave off more puns and to stop people getting crotchety, (which is only natural since they are bound to pitch in, which may lower the tone), I'll give it a rest so this topic can breve and not slur my character. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 12:36
Hiya,

I recently read an interview in a magazine with Mikael, and there was a quote that I found interesting that might explain slightly.

"Some things sound like sh*t, but it's the right sh*t! On the song Burden on our new album Watershed, I came up with the idea of Fredrik slowly detuning my acoustic while I played the outro, for example. Sometimes these things add to the song, so we did it - it was funny and ended the song in a nice way. It was a lovely melodic kind of song, and I love to destroy things like that."

He's basically saying he likes to... destroy lovely melodic songs which explains that odd note, it does stand out and is a kick in the face for the traditional melody but I kind of like the unnerving edge that note gives. That unwelcoming evil touch if you like. :P

Oh by the way, I see somebody posted the tab for the intro a page back or so, thanks for that. Does anybody have any tabs/guitar pro tabs for the rest of the song or anything else from Watershed? Thanks in advance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 14:01
Originally posted by Kathune Kathune wrote:



Oh by the way, I see somebody posted the tab for the intro a page back or so, thanks for that. Does anybody have any tabs/guitar pro tabs for the rest of the song or anything else from Watershed? Thanks in advance.
We can't post full tabs here - excerpts are okay for educational/discussion purposes.
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