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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 15:40 |
Oh dear. So much crap. And Then There Were Three. That was it for me. Couldn't get into anything after that treacherous garbage. The only track I think I can listen to post-W&W is Abacab and I can't be in a grouchy mood which is most of the time.
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: February 10 2010 at 16:02 |
"...Calling All Stations..." is just horrid. I don't know why people are picking the debut. Sure, it was just an average and unmemorable Psychedelic Pop album, but at least it doesn't have that awful, processed, manufactured 80's/ 90's sound.
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JeffBeddow
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Posted: September 30 2010 at 18:30 |
I would have to say "Genesis." It sounded as if the band didn't know what direction they wanted to go in, and "Illegal Alien" is simply one of the dumbest songs from ANY band EVER. "Henry the VIII" by Herman's Hermits beats it for substance on any given day.
The best? Foxtrot!
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yanch
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Posted: September 30 2010 at 21:33 |
Very close between Calling All Stations and Genesis. Can't really pick, both are awful.
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Frayz
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Posted: April 14 2016 at 21:24 |
IMHO Invisible Touch is the worst album without doubt. All tracks sounds like a hybrid between A-ha album & Phil Collins solo album.
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Cristi
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 05:28 |
Frayz wrote:
IMHO Invisible Touch is the worst album without doubt. All tracks sounds like a hybrid between A-ha album & Phil Collins solo album. |
I doubt the Genesis guys knew about A-Ha and A-Ha's 80s works is better than Phil's, Genesis and Mike's works of those times.  (if you ask me)
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Frayz
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 07:10 |
Cristi wrote:
Frayz wrote:
IMHO Invisible Touch is the worst album without doubt. All tracks sounds like a hybrid between A-ha album & Phil Collins solo album. |
I doubt the Genesis guys knew about A-Ha and A-Ha's 80s works is better than Phil's, Genesis and Mike's works of those times. (if you ask me)
| Everyone have different taste, but i agree some songs on IT are worse than A-ha songs. But on the proggy songs like Tonight, tonight, tonight, Domino, and The Brazilian sounds more like A-ha tries to be prog IMHO. Also i think that Morten Harket vocals are better than Collins vocals on IT. Why do you doubting Genesis dont knew about A-ha in those years? I just want to know IMHO both A-ha and Mike & Mechanics are two of the best pop bands in the 80s.
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Cristi
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 07:22 |
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 13:13 |
I expect Genesis were very much aware of other pop music of the time, including A-Ha. Their transistion to pop/rock would have been influenced to some degree by the big pop groups of the time. Remember Bank's/Collins claim that Mama was influenced by Grandmaster Flash? As far as 80's pop goes I thought A-ha weren't that bad..  There was far worse pop at the time.
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Cristi
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 13:20 |
Blacksword wrote:
I expect Genesis were very much aware of other pop music of the time, including A-Ha. Their transistion to pop/rock would have been influenced to some degree by the big pop groups of the time.
Remember Bank's/Collins claim that Mama was influenced by Grandmaster Flash?
As far as 80's pop goes I thought A-ha weren't that bad.. There was far worse pop at the time. |
A-ha were great, still are, they released an album last year.
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Icarium
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 13:23 |
Blacksword wrote:
I expect Genesis were very much aware of other pop music of the time, including A-Ha. Their transistion to pop/rock would have been influenced to some degree by the big pop groups of the time.
Remember Bank's/Collins claim that Mama was influenced by Grandmaster Flash?
As far as 80's pop goes I thought A-ha weren't that bad.. There was far worse pop at the time. |
Magne Furuholmen have some nice keyboard solos as well, he might be influenced by Banks but maybe also Banks took notice of Magnes playing as well.
Edited by Icarium - April 15 2016 at 13:25
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Rednight
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Posted: April 15 2016 at 17:02 |
We Can't Dance takes the cake here. I recall in the documentary on the making of the album that came with the 2006(?) CD/DVD where the band talked about how they'd go into the studio and doodle around with a few notes before slowly building a melody from there, and that's how it went. Well, it sure sounds like that's how they did it. Whatever happened to going into the studio with a few already written rough versions of songs, boys? Just a mess and almost seems like a contractual obligation album for the band.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 01:42 |
Rednight wrote:
We Can't Dance takes the cake here. I recall in the documentary on the making of the album that came with the 2006(?) CD/DVD where the band talked about how they'd go into the studio and doodle around with a few notes before slowly building a melody from there, and that's how it went. Well, it sure sounds like that's how they did it. Whatever happened to going into the studio with a few already written rough versions of songs, boys? Just a mess and almost seems like a contractual obligation album for the band. | Only a couple of songs were already written for A Trick of the tail when they went into the studio. The rests were just fragments that developed while they were in the studio. I do agree about WCD though. It is mostly awful, apart from Fading Lights and No son of mine.
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Cristi
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 04:49 |
I like WCD, I think it's better than their 80s works, well, except for Duke, obviously.
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micky
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 07:02 |
worst Genesis album? trick question.
Genesis didn't a worse album...unless one counts their last which is usually what tells a band they need to call it a day anyway. You do have to hand it to Genesis... they were remarkably quite consistent during their career of putting out mediocre inconsistent albums then raising their game to doing fairly good albums chock full of good songs. Go figure..
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Nightfly
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 11:48 |
I can live without anything post Duke quite easily though there was the odd moment where they nailed it. Picking one is difficult.
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Vikingrat9966
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 13:34 |
Got Duke first and went backwards. Like a lot of stuff that was precious to me when I was younger seems to not hold up to well. After being on a huge SH and PG binge I can do with out Invisible Touch and Calling All Stations. Most of the stuff after Duke moved ever farther away from what I loved about them.
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: April 16 2016 at 13:43 |
The last one. But they had lots of horrible albums, I must say.
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uduwudu
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 06:42 |
If pushed I'd say the least liked Genesis album is the debut. But it has the funniest story (star of the religious cut out record bins).
I found that recompiling certain albums gives 'e a whole new listen. Invisible Touch (oh too happy for we misery loving prog fans) when the first three get the unedited versions and the judiciously included B sides this way it's now a 2 LP set (equivalent). The variety is quite beguiling. Same with Genesis and Abacab (lovely bass work from Mike Rutherford on that one.) Yes, I know the production has that bright 80s thing... but the paying and writing is too good to allow mere production values to stop it. The dismal production of Foxtrot never stopped that from being pretty good... at least well appreciated.
Calling All Stations (again with all those B sides makes for more than a full CD does have a different drummer that gives the album a whole different feel). I like to stick with the band and trust they know what they are doing and the audience will catch up. Terrific new singer (then) and fine performances. Enjoyable live DVD with a harder rocking Genesis.
Of the last albums I suppose We Can't Dance might be my least favourite (depends on the mood for the day) but it's hardly disliked.
Bonus points for the fun '80s videos. Someone was not taking themselves too seriously...
There. As harsh and mean spirited as I can be toward our dinosaur friends. That reminds me, I still haven't seen the episode of This Is Your Life featuring Rutherford. Must be on You Tube land somewhere...
So that's it; least liked - the debut, but it's not disliked. Make sure you get the 2 CD version. They did very well all things considered.
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 12:43 |
To be honest I don't really play anything after 'Wind and Wuthering' though I do own 'And Then...' and 'Duke'. But to me the worst would be Calling All Stations...I mean hell, Collins isn't even on it so is it even Genesis ...?
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