Dirty Words?

First I read what HE said, and I thought 'That's preposterous'.
Then I read what SHE said and I thought: 'Silly cow, serves her right'.

The whole incident was not about the word vagina but about the context in which it was used. The abortion context doesn't even play into this.

Talk about sensationalism!

Easy Livin': This is the "General Discussion" forum. The General Discussion forum is specifically for not talking about music. I don't see how this kind of discussion is even vaguely a threat to PA. Political views expressed in the general forum have no impact on the purpose or direction of the site. People who aren't interested in non-musical discussion probably aren't in this forum. I'm very worried that what you just said there is "Admin don't like Textbook's (and others) political views and are considering either silencing him or quitting"-please correct me if I'm wrong about that, but that seemed to be the subtext. Both actions are not necessary. If I were truely defiant/hopeless, I would have reposted this thread the way it was the first time instead of rewriting it. The original thread was quite different from this one- same story but I covered it in a much more wild and vituperative way. This toned-down edition of the thread has not been censored, so I guess the problem was my attitude, not the subject. And certainly no one needs to quit because they think I'm a dick. Go ahead, think I'm a dick. Heck, know I'm a dick. We can dialogue on it and try to compromise towards a happy middle ground as I tried to do with rewriting this thread, as was done (in PM) regarding the thread I made a while back complaining about over-zealous admin. It's not (and almost never is) a One Must Fall scenario.

Edited by Textbook - June 21 2012 at 05:34

Sean Trane wrote:   At the risk of upsetting both of you (I'm in no position to do that, right now), I find that most that have left did so because of internal management issues (some even resorting to unsuccessful blackmail), often due to lack of action by the head honcho (not aiming at all at Admins, here).. The management of the forum was maybe an issue to an Italian lady, but in 90% of the case, it was the database's management that raised irritations and disputes   =================   The free-speach policy of the forum was actually very much an asset for the site,  even if Maani left things self-regulate somehow and sometimes a tad too much... Because it didn't always self-regulate by itself.   I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with the palette of subjects that are discussed in the General Discussion Forum... If a subject upsets you... don't open it.... And if you do... do so at your own risk... go cry to mommy, but save the forum of the crybaby thing...   This doesn't mean that all subjects should be openly discussed... Obviously there is a fine line - which I'd hate to qualify as "politically correct" (and often is not politically correct, because it resembles to censorship), but it's clearly about the abuse of political correctness issue to make censorship (speaking of the abortion debate issue here, not the thread itself)... The censorship of the use of the word "vagina" is simply inacceptible in a free-speech society... How can an anatomical word be a dirty word??  In the name of prudery???   Let's call a cat a pussy then, shall we??

For someone with a perspective they consider clearly above the petty and trivial posturing of PC, you don't even have the balls/vagina (delete as applicable) to name the Italian lady as 'Raff' and you cite internal management issues you have never, are not and never will be privvy to as pivotal in the decisions for several people to leave the site yet decline to name those individuals. You also refer to unsuccessful blackmail and I would ask that you advise me by PM what precisely this refers to, failing that, I would request that you stop wasting everyone's time with posts that are poorly thought out, cowardly, disingenuous, speculative, borderline slanderous and betray a belligerent contempt for even rudimentary spelling.
Word to the wise cupcake, proof read your allegations

I see I've risen considerably in your estimation if you'd now suspect that I know something.

Textbook wrote:   If you try to dictate what we as adults are allowed to talk about, you can expect anybody half-decent to head for the door. Anyone who stays is going "I'm a sheep and/or a frightened dinosaur taking shelter from the world."

Oh look, it's another "Whoever doesn't agree with me is a sheep" post from Textbook. 

Free speech (in the US) does not allow one to enter a private or commercially owned establishment and talk about whatever I want.  A movie theater will throw you out for talking at all.  If this site were to suddenly be rid of the non-music forums, I would stay all the same.  It's the database that drew me to this site initially.  I joined a year before I even started posting.

Textbook wrote: Epig: Did you know that you can make love to your spouse in your own bedroom but not on a public bus? To wit, this isn't a movie theatre. It's a *General Discussion* forum.

But - the premis of "the one in this thread" was bogus from the outset

Textbook wrote: People who are content with being told they are not allowed to talk about contentious issues, because the admin has decided they can't be trusted, are sheep

Admins are just here to administer the site; a part of that is to ensure site rules & guidelines are adhered to, so (I may be being dim here, but...) I don't see how trust is an issue.

^ Not an entirely unreasonable request on a music appreciation website where we allow discussion on:
Would You Consider Dating A Transsexual? Dirty Words? Are People, In General, Crazy? Sleeveface, Clueless, Best Of vs Greatest Hit, Big Number, Prog's Most Controversial Lyricist, Should Art Rock Be A Sub-Genre On PA? Out Hud, These New Puritans, Dubious Genres #1: Cloud Rap, Music Banter, Marvel vs DC, I Am Am I Who Am I, The Greatest Video Ever Made, Ruby Frost, Cruellest Review, That's Why God Made The Radio

(and we're still in June folks)

Contentious issues are one thing but scatter-gunning the forum with lame threads that the OP invariably has to bump to garner any responses is another. The only contentious issue here is where does the laudable largesse afforded to yourself stem from re the general body of the membership?

ETL: I have no idea what you think you're doing.

Edited by Textbook - June 21 2012 at 07:36