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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for IMDB, it's good for films but it's not a music site.
Uh, no.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for IMDB, it's good for films but it's not a music site.
Uh, no.


What is your "no" to? You don't think it's good? You think rotten tomatoes is so much better?LOL


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Actually, I'd recommend these 21 albums as a very good but yet minimum for a Prog starter kit:

Yes we know as you posted the exact same list a little further up on this page:)

Sorry, but I'm a bit more precise than you are.

I forgot to look, but now I remember who you are. Back to not interacting anymore.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2023 at 12:29
Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

I agree. While this site isn't perfect it's still probably the best online resource for all things prog. So someone brand new to prog should just come on over here and look at the top ten albums then go to youtube to see if they want to purchase some of them (either cd, vinyl, download or streaming). 
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

There are Metal & Jazz versions of this site.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

I agree. While this site isn't perfect it's still probably the best online resource for all things prog. So someone brand new to prog should just come on over here and look at the top ten albums then go to youtube to see if they want to purchase some of them (either cd, vinyl, download or streaming). 

Thanks. The genre teams attempt to keep this site up-to-date and thus, the best online prog resource.


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

I agree. While this site isn't perfect it's still probably the best online resource for all things prog. So someone brand new to prog should just come on over here and look at the top ten albums then go to youtube to see if they want to purchase some of them (either cd, vinyl, download or streaming). 

Thanks. The genre teams attempt to keep this site up-to-date and thus, the best online prog resource.

Well, it's not like there's a lot of competition. Tongue At least not for this kind of forum. There's only one other similar website for prog (at least that I know of) and they do a very good job too but there's a lot more members here and the other site doesn't have a comprehensive database with tons of listings of artists like PA does. 


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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

There are Metal & Jazz versions of this site.

Which ones are you referring to?

I actually helped a lot when a bunch of PA folks created the metal music archives - but it never seemed to get enough traffic to get the number to make the charts useful. Maybe I need to go back and see if it's still alive and kicking.

How did the jazz version do?

Encyclopedia Metallicum is ok but it's still isn't put together to my taste as well as this.
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Starting with the Rate Your Music all time highest voted chart is a much better representation of the world at large than PA actually. This is a niche site that not everyone visits.

The #1 prog rock album of all time on RYM is Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here.
On RYM it has close to 60,000 ratings whereas PA only has 4433 at the moment

Check out this chart that includes both prog rock and prog metal and it doesn't stop at 250

It will take you through 20 pages that includes the top 2000


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Is there anything available today even in other genres that does what this site does?

The entire site was extremely helpful to me. The charts themselves were a great "start here" both the main chart and then the genre charts. I had no idea what Canterbury or Krautrock were before coming here.

I agree. While this site isn't perfect it's still probably the best online resource for all things prog. So someone brand new to prog should just come on over here and look at the top ten albums then go to youtube to see if they want to purchase some of them (either cd, vinyl, download or streaming). 

Thanks. The genre teams attempt to keep this site up-to-date and thus, the best online prog resource.
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Well, it's not like there's a lot of competition. Tongue At least not for this kind of forum. There's only one other similar website for prog (at least that I know of) and they do a very good job too but there's a lot more members here and the other site doesn't have a comprehensive database with tons of listings of artists like PA does. 

Thanks. I hate (!) competition and love there's not a lot of competition! I can attest that PA has a strong independent collaborator basis that keeps the site up to top notch status!
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Lark's Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson. That's all that's needed. Enjoy the initiation.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Lark's Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson. That's all that's needed. Enjoy the initiation.

Except from it took for instance me about 30 years as Prog lover to become fond of this album. Big smile
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Starting with the Rate Your Music all time highest voted chart is a much better representation of the world at large than PA actually. 

Yes, I think that's a fact.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Lark's Tongues In Aspic - King Crimson. That's all that's needed. Enjoy the initiation.

That's why I don't think In the Court of the Crimson King should be on the list. When you're ready - Lark's Tongues should be your first King Crimson.
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Hi,

Sad. For my point of view.

For many of us, in the old days, we didn't ask anyone ... you saw this far out cover and your mind started wondering and you went and listened. Rarely, if ever, did many of us get something because of someone else's thoughts or ideas.

And I certainly think that suggestions, while exceptionally well meaning, are not what you want ... PROGRESSIVE MUSIC came alive because of our imagination AND DESIRE to listen to something else than the pop crap on radio. And that it came with artistic notions and aspects, was a massive bonus ... and this is something that you will not exactly get, or understand, about most of this music.

It's like me telling you that "kraurock" is an art scene, not a rock scene, and you will go ... what's he talking about? ... instead of going to check out the movies, the theater, the artists, the singers, the actors, and the musicians that made it come alive! AND, how, improvisation (mostly a theater exercise btw!!!) was so valuable and important!

If, you have to rely on our suggestions, it kinda makes me feel sad ... we discovered new worlds on our own ... you're not discovering much because you are being told.

Reminds me of that Leunig cartoon, of the proud father showing his son a painting ... and next to it is the window, and the outside? EXACTLY THE SAME as the painting ...

I guess it depends on your curiosity level, which starts with you, not me or anyone else!


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^ in the old days you didn't have the internet with the entire history of music at your fingertips.

Asking advice in navigating the millions of albums that have been released since the "old days" is actually quite helpful.

I have expanded my own musical discoveries and weeding out the crap by researching lists and recommendations of others including this site here.

Maybe this person is simply curious as to how everyone will respond!

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

As for IMDB, it's good for films but it's not a music site.
Uh, no.


What is your "no" to? You don't think it's good? You think rotten tomatoes is so much better?LOL
You think I didn't know it's not a not a music site?
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