Carl Palmer as a drummer?

Hmmm,I think some people should stay within four walls and not interact with other people....

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:   I don't need to hide from you pal, I'm here every day, you only talk about how great your work is going to be, how our sad little lives are going to be illuminated by your wonderful opus (From which nobody knows a thing yet).   But at least in this place you done nothing.   I never praised my work, but the day you write 10% of the bios and the reviews I written in Prog Archives and when bands as Magenta or stores selling stuff by Rick Wakeman or Pavlov's Dog take your reviews and include them in their site or translate them to japanese, then tak.   You only proved you're an arrogant who are basing your existence in a future project that you haven't even started.   I have never received a 70,000 bucks check from Robert Fripp or a 200,000 from another one but a real producer wouldn't brag about this in a public forum because nobody is stupid enough, and even if it's true, that doesn't make you better than anybody.   I have read the Slliperman page and it's full of technicall terms i don't claim to understand and a lot of profanities trying to make you sound more inetersting but which I honestly find pathetic.   Iván   EDIT: Is also interesting to see how you avoid answering specific questions, you just reply with a bunch of insults.   The real confident person who things this poor site is too amateur for him, would simply avoid it, not come back again and again trying to receive approval from people who supposedly are not in your level.

Edited by spleenache - December 27 2006 at 18:56

I asked this question in another thread but so far no one replied. Maybe someone can help me here.

Edited by spleenache - December 27 2006 at 20:56

Sorry for my mistake earlier, thanks for correcting me Ivan.  You seem a pretty knowledgeable person, I guess I was just being nitpicky for no reason.

Ummm, about Carl Palmer's lack of snare drum skills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn9fkAGwJcM

The opposite of modesty is arrogance and nobody likes that.

Let me make Ivans point clear before anyone else posts.

He says Palmer is an excellent drummer, better than many of his contempories.

As a great drummer though he is a little less good in his snare technique and timing etc...


Is that right Ivan?

Really interesting debate here. I saw those two drummers this year. I met both of them backstage, and I have my picture taken with each of them. I even worked for Carl for one night saling his items. I don't know much about drumming, even if I went two times at the Montreal DrumFest. I learned about it a little.

I don't think that we can really compare those gentlemen; Bill is more on the jazz way, more on groove, while the other is more agressive and punchy. Both are technically good, and both give drum clinics and like to teach.

It's like skiers. Some skiers are good on slalom while others are good on giant slalom and fast down hill skiing. We can not say that one skier is better than the other if they don't ski the same event. It's the same with Bruford and Palmer. They don't play the same way, and the same kind of music. If you like Jazz, maybe Bruford is the drummer for you, but if you like the more agressive and fast way to play, than Carl is the drummer for you.

Drumming is not just a technical way; if you can not transmit to the people your joy of playing and good feelings, even if you are technically good, it's not enough.

One thing I noticed; Bill is more relaxed on drumming, while Carl seems to play on a more physical way, more punchy and faster. Carl is also nice on the snare drum like on the video on you tube. Today, IMHO, Carl does try and show new tricks on the drums and snare drums, things that he never did while he was playing with ELP. So, Carl innovated in his way of drumming. For me, he is the more interesting one to watch, the one who blows me away.       

Carl with his band at the Medley in Montreal. Technically pretty good and very agressive. He still likes to play hard.

Thanks Sylvie...great photos!