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ExittheLemming 
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 Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:38 |
 Textbook wrote:
ETL: I have no idea what you think you're doing. That's Why God Made The Radio: It was about a Beach Boys album. Is this unreasonable? Cruellest Review: A lot of people here enjoy reading and discussing reviews. Is this unreasonable? Ruby Frost: A new artist I tried to interest people in. Is this unreasonable? The Greatest Video Ever Made: A joke and in the Just For Fun forum. Is this unreasonable? I Am Am I Who Am I: A new artist I tried to interest people in. Is this unreasonable? Music Banter: A site I thought people might be interested in. Is this unreasonable? Dubious Genres: An attempt to look at oddball genres, something quite natural for a prog site I would've thought. Is this unreasonable? These New Puritans: A suggestion for a new band on PA. Is this unreasonable?
Out Hud: An overlooked band I attempted to interest people in. Is this unreasonable? Should Art Rock Be A Sub-Genre On PA: Seriously, this is a lame thread you can't understand someone making here. Really? Prog's Most Controverisal Lyricist: Same as above. Big Numbers: About sales in prog, see above. Best Of vs Greatest Hits/Clueless: Alright, these two were a bit ephemeral. Sleeveface: I think these are hilarious and it's in Just For Fun. Are People In General Crazy?: So why exactly can I not ask this?
Dirty Words: A polticial incident I was upset about. Would You Consider Dating A Transsexual: A psychologically and socially interesting question imo. But more importantly, and this trumps everything above, I DON'T START THREADS SO THAT YOU PERSONALLY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THEM. I, and everyone else here, starts threads because THEY are interested in them and they hope that others might be too. If they are not, that is fine. I am welcome to attempt to interest people in whatever I like as often as I like and so is everyone else here. I really feel you're clutching at straws here because not only are most of the cited threads absolutely valid, but if it were some sort of crime to start an unsuccessful or lame thread, we'd all be banned. And if you do want to play that game, I started the You Know You're A Prog Addict thread, which is still on the front page after two and a half years, 62 pages, 1230 replies so kaboom, game over.
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We get it, you're bored sh*tless. Why not target the non music related topics to more specialised sites where you might get a more informed and erudite response. (I suspect you don't do this because on PA, very few are gonna show you up when it comes to credible life experience maaan)
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:40 |
"Man this forum would be a really cool place if there weren't people trying to contribute to it all the time. I hate it when I go on and there's a thread there not exactly like one I've already seen."
Seriously, I have no idea what you are trying to do/say.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:43 |
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^ You've initiated over 20 forum threads in 1 month and you're asking me to consider you stuck for words by way of my responses? Nah.....
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:44 |
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AND you cited 17 threads- 14 of them were about music. So what is this non-music focus I have?
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:45 |
Textbook wrote:
Jim: It sounds like some people are suggesting that the site should say that though. I was saying what I would think were that to become the case. |
Nobody's saying that at all - Over the 8 years I've been on this site, General Discussions has seen various debates/discussions on extremely contentious subjects from abortion rights, to modern day nazism, sexual orientation, holocaust denial, drug use & political exchanges from virtually every part of the spectrum.
None of these threads have ever been summarily closed due to the subject matter itself (unless specifically promoting illegal activities). However, many have been closed due to the discussions going outside the site's rules & guidelines - that is why us admins moderate the forum.
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Dean
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:48 |
Textbook wrote:
Jim: It sounds like some people are suggesting that the site should say that though. I was saying what I would think were that to become the case. |
Has any Admin actually said: "Either Textbook goes or I go" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "I don't like Textbook's (and others) political views" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "Stop making lame threads or we'll ban you" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "This topic is off-limits and will be censored" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "You are not allowed to talk about that" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "Man this forum would be a really cool place if there weren't people try ing to contribute to it all the time. I hate it when I go on and there's a thread there not exactly like one I've already seen" ?
Has any Admin actually said: "You are not allowed to bitch about us" ?
Has any Admin ever really harassed you for any reason ?
Has any Admin ever publically (I don't know what people have done via PM) threatened to ban or suspend you ?
Has any Admin ever banned anyone for starting non-music threads here ?
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What?
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:48 |
ETL: So I started 17 (this is not over 20 btw) threads in a month. OH NO I'LL USE THEM ALL UP. And they were all completly irrelevant spam that it's absolutely crazy to assume anybody here would ever want to talk about too, as I explained in the post you've quoted atop this page. I'll be honest: I think this whole thing you're doing with me is about you not liking my views on things. That's what I think.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:51 |
Dean: The answer to one of those questions is yes (really) but I don't think it would be consructive to air the details. But the rest of them, the answer is no and that's it exactly. I'm concerned that it could head in that direction. You don't stop something by bitching about it after it's happened. A pre-emptive bitch, that's me. Wait a minute, that didn't sound right.
Edited by Textbook - June 21 2012 at 07:53
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:51 |
Textbook wrote:
I think this whole thing you're doing with me is about you not liking my views on things. That's what I think. |
"Help, help I'm being repressed!"
"Bloody peasant"
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:52 |
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Anyway, this is getting too serious and negative. I say we just dead this conversation and carry on normally about the forum and I live in hope that ETL finds my next thread absolutely riveting stuff because it's always been him I have in mind when I post here.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:58 |
I came *this close* to starting a thread over in a music forum based off ETL's personal page about how Brain Salad Surgery was the first prog album I listened to and how King Crimson, Genesis, Argent, the Nice and Greenslade are my favourite bands. Would he have noticed what I was doing? Probably. But the good thing about me not actually doing it and instead just spoiling the idea here, is that we can imagine that he wouldn't have.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 07:59 |
Textbook wrote:
Anyway, this is getting too serious and negative. I say we just dead this conversation and carry on normally about the forum and I live in hope that ETL finds my next thread absolutely riveting stuff because it's always been him I have in mind when I post here. |
You really need a new role model pilgrim
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Dean
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:00 |
Textbook wrote:
Dean: The answer to one of those questions is yes (really) but I don't think it would be consructive to air the details.
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Then by PM please.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:02 |
What's really going on with me and ETL is that I'm using this place as a playground due to my inability to sleep, for him it's a big serious deal. That's all. Both uses are equally valid. ETL: Peace brother. I'm serious.
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Textbook
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:05 |
What the hell was that, they're not equally valid at all. ETL's is far more valid. ETL: I guess you win. Well done.
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Dean
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:05 |
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Well, you can file it away as a future anecdote to impress newbies: "The day I was picked-on by 4 Admins"
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:09 |
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^^ You flatter yourself that I think these tiresome exchanges a big deal but I sincerely hope you cure your sleep problem. The only mitigating circumstances that I can cite are that I give a f*ck about the site. PA's future does does not rest upon either of us, we are both irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Edited by ExittheLemming - June 21 2012 at 08:09
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Sean Trane
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 08:51 |
Dean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
This doesn't mean that all subjects should be openly discussed... Obviously there is a fine line - which I'd hate to qualify as "politically correct" (and often is not politically correct, because it resembles to censorship), but it's clearly about the abuse of political correctness issue to make censorship (speaking of the abortion debate issue here, not the thread itself)... The censorship of the use of the word "vagina" is simply inacceptible in a free-speech society... How can an anatomical word be a dirty word?? In the name of prudery???
Let's call a cat a pussy then, shall we??  |
You need to read the background of this "vagina" incident - the objection was not about the use of the word "vagina", the word "vagina" was not the subject of censorship - Lisa Brown was censured for the how she used the word, she was not censored for using it. Unfortunately - poor journalism and even poorer reading-skills have done their usual trick of ensuring this story is coitused up (anatomically correct word) beyond recognition. That is the real sad indictment on the state of the world today. |
I had read enough of it to know (at least I think so) that it was the way she replied using her own sex that was the problem (despite the guy saying he'd use the word in front of en and not in front of women, showing this dude's got a heavy psychological problem),
This is still a censorship problem, because essentially, abortion is a 99% feminine-only issue and problem.... yet it seems that it's always (or mostly) the ones that are not concerned by the problem that make it an even more complicated problem for those who are concerned.... so she obviously told the guy, that he was not concerned and to stopping worrying about her wombs... So the guy clearly losing the point cried foul (on what possible grounds, I wonder)
Basically, what the hell are men intruding in this debate for??? they've got almost no say (unless being the potential father) in the matter... it's not their body.
Let women deal with the issue...
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 09:42 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Textbook wrote:
Jim: It sounds like some people are suggesting that the site should say that though. I was saying what I would think were that to become the case. |
Nobody's saying that at all - Over the 8 years I've been on this site, General Discussions has seen various debates/discussions on extremely contentious subjects from abortion rights, to modern day nazism, sexual orientation, holocaust denial, drug use & political exchanges from virtually every part of the spectrum.
None of these threads have ever been summarily closed due to the subject matter itself (unless specifically promoting illegal activities). However, many have been closed due to the discussions going outside the site's rules & guidelines - that is why us admins moderate the forum. |
Hello, I wrote very little in the forum from when I was censored and not let me put more pictures, I just had placed pictures of priests who blessed weapons I'm used to more freedom of expression, show historical facts should not be censored, however, decided not to comment more on political and religious issues, only occasionally'll bring something in music
Edited by markosherrera - June 21 2012 at 18:54
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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Smurph
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Posted: June 21 2012 at 10:06 |
Textbook wrote:
ETL: I have no idea what you think you're doing.
That's Why God Made The Radio: It was about a Beach Boys album. Is this unreasonable?
Cruellest Review: A lot of people here enjoy reading and discussing reviews. Is this unreasonable?
Ruby Frost: A new artist I tried to interest people in. Is this unreasonable?
The Greatest Video Ever Made: A joke and in the Just For Fun forum. Is this unreasonable?
I Am Am I Who Am I: A new artist I tried to interest people in. Is this unreasonable?
Music Banter: A site I thought people might be interested in. Is this unreasonable?
Dubious Genres: An attempt to look at oddball genres, something quite natural for a prog site I would've thought. Is this unreasonable?
These New Puritans: A suggestion for a new band on PA. Is this unreasonable?
Out Hud: An overlooked band I attempted to interest people in. Is this unreasonable?
Should Art Rock Be A Sub-Genre On PA: Seriously, this is a lame thread you can't understand someone making here. Really?
Prog's Most Controverisal Lyricist: Same as above.
Big Numbers: About sales in prog, see above.
Best Of vs Greatest Hits/Clueless: Alright, these two were a bit ephemeral.
Sleeveface: I think these are hilarious and it's in Just For Fun.
Are People In General Crazy?: So why exactly can I not ask this?
Dirty Words: A polticial incident I was upset about.
Would You Consider Dating A Transsexual: A psychologically and socially interesting question imo.
But more importantly, and this trumps everything above, I DON'T START THREADS SO THAT YOU PERSONALLY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THEM.
I, and everyone else here, starts threads because THEY are interested in them and they hope that others might be too. If they are not, that is fine. I am welcome to attempt to interest people in whatever I like as often as I like and so is everyone else here. I really feel you're clutching at straws here because not only are most of the cited threads absolutely valid, but if it were some sort of crime to start an unsuccessful or lame thread, we'd all be banned. And if you do want to play that game, I started the You Know You're A Prog Addict thread, which is still on the front page after two and a half years, 62 pages, 1230 replies .
The most replies to any thread started by ETL in the last six months? 2. Check if you don't believe.
So kaboom, game over. |
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