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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Thirded (if this word exists...). It's hard to find another band which managed to balance sound sophistication and dynamic/agressive rocking tunes. VdGG lacked this "Rock'n'Roll" edge that Roxy Music could bring at the party. |
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Jonathan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 18 2012 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 201 |
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Either The Residents were the first Prog Punk Band with the Album Fingerprince or Univers Zero with 1313 or maybe even Throbbing Gristle. |
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CPicard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Mmmm... Univers Zéro has strong roots in jazz and classical music (and they were purely instrumental and not politised). Throbbing Gristle were so strictly contemporary of the Punk scene that they were considered as fully part of this said scene. So, I don't think that the last two bands really qualify. |
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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The Who?
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Jonathan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 18 2012 Location: North Carolina Status: Offline Points: 201 |
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The Who IMHO were neither Prog nor Punk. They put out ONE Proto-Prog Album called "A Quick One" and were a Proto-Punk Band but they weren't Prog Punk.
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23147 |
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I'd probably say Faust - IV.
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8641 |
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The Beatles...rotten punks.
"Worlds Apart" is my favorite. I'll have to listen to "From the Cradle to the Grave". |
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Mirkwood ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 14 2013 Status: Offline Points: 25 |
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I would say Penetration, they formed in 1976, were part of the punk scene. Their album "Moving Targets" which came out in 1978 has lots of progressive elements, some of the songs are basically metal too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdBB2pKgEA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i5_ScLoI2w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLvRewk7kGQ also the song "Reunion", not on youtube but whole album is like this Chron Gen's "Nowhere to Run" EP is also very proggy, I have a hard time considering it punk, but they were very much a part of the punk scene. Maybe a bit AOR sounding at times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWozk_XieJ8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fmFbRvF2eE Also, Youth Brigade (the California band) has some progressive elements, listen to the guitar work. Great vocals and intelligent lyrics too. They were way ahead of their time with a hip hop song on their album in the early 1980s. Maybe more punky than prog, but great band. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb9VSGTjShI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6BuoXNGbMg Edited by Mirkwood - March 14 2013 at 07:36 |
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3150 |
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I've been thinking about ELP's Benny the Bouncer as somewhat a prog-punk song and other of their works like A Time and A Place(could ELP be considered a Prog-Punk band?) but hell I could be wrong
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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topographicbroadways ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
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Punk was progressive from day one. Progressive Rock stayed fairly stagnant for a decade which is why it fizzled out.
Whereas Punk has continued to evolve from it's simplistic beginnings in the Sex Pistols, Ramones etc. into Hardcore in the 80s and dozens of Hardcore influenced genres from Grindcore to Thrash metal to Mathcore, Metalcore, Screamo, skapunk, Post-Hardcore. Dozens of progressive bands and movements that can be traced back to the original punk movement. Punk is the real prog when you think about it... Edited by topographicbroadways - March 14 2013 at 06:37 |
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Stool Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 30 2007 Location: Anti-Cool (anag Status: Offline Points: 2689 |
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![]() The original Prog Punk band is obviously Public Image Limited.
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rotten hound of the burnie crew
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23147 |
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I guess there's a lot of similarities with punk and Krautrock - even in the early days, but the artist I personally think was the first to sound like a proper punk band doing prog, was Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy. Here & Now, who was his band for that gig then made their debut afterwards, which I feel is the best example of the two genres meshing together:
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Evolver ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5493 |
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Most punk was NOT progressive. It was a change from the established commercial forms of rock, for sure. But progressive it was not.
Punk was meant to strip away all of the so-called pretensions of rock and pop, and create a form that would allow anyone to pick up an instrument and form a band. Agression was important. Ability was not. The entire basis of the genre was anti-prog. Malcolm McLaren even dubbed fis creation, The Sex Pistols, as "The great rock & Roll swindle". In effect he was saying that he could bring together the most untalented individuals he could find, and successfully sell it to the recording industry and the general public, and make a fortune from them. Surprisingly, Johnny (Rotten) Lydon actually managed to develop some artistry in his music not very long after. And like any music style, a few artists managed to raise the genre above it's basic roots, and insert some true creativity. Although a few of these artists added some progressive elements to some of their songs, that would not serve to categorize the genre as progressive. Progressive-regressive? Maybe.
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I also suggested them. Their post debut album EPs and the concert It's All Over The Show is even a better example of their punkish direction. Are you familiar with it David?? |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23147 |
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Hadn't heard Little Things no, but I'm glad I just did though. Yummy.
I have also heard their second album Fantasy Shift, albeit on YouTube. That one sounds like a Canterbury version of The Police. |
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Sagichim ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 29 2006 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 6632 |
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![]() About that concert video, it's the only video I could find in utube so I posted it. There are far more engaging tracks in that raw live show. |
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Guldbamsen ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23147 |
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Definitely agree about the psych punk core of the band. On Fantasy Shift there's even some ska in there.
I need to get my hands on those eps though. Thanks for the rec Sagi! |
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Maybe its The Fall as Mark is a big Can Fan
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Help me I'm falling!
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