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Abstrakt
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 03:41 |
Young-Don't like
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imoeng
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 03:56 |
^ Can't believe it.. Opeth are from Sweden right?? You should be an Opeth maniac! LOL just kidding.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 04:36 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I'm 31 and voted I don't like the poll. It needs more options.
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Which options would that be?
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 04:59 |
I would have to answer, I'm not young and i like Prog Metal. What use
would that information have, when I certainly think its age-related to
like it myself?
I'm open to any extreme music including metal, and continued liking a
lot of what i listened to in my teens. Of course listening to norwegian
death-prog metal, and not laugh out loud at bands like Rhapsody is age
related. I love Enslaved myself, but to make a point I have to
generalize a little, although nothing is absolute.
Music interested people past their teens has obviously heard a lot more
music than a teenager. So when you've heard all variations of 70's
prog, you'll hope that when someone writes: OMG!! DT is the best band
ever!!! - that they will in time find out that they were wrong.
How about I'm not young/young: I think it is age related, and young people like it more?...or something.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 05:16 |
The purpose of this poll is not to gather opinions, but facts - provided that people are not manipulating, the poll will show whether your opinion is confirmed by it or not.
Why don't you create another poll which simply has two options: "I think that liking PM is age related" and the reverse. It will be interesting to see if the results will match ...
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 05:43 |
Well, I wouldn't really trust the result anyway, and I'm not really
qurious because I know what the right answer is. Prog-metal is in
general and as a phenomena in the world outside of here, mainly for young boys broadening their metal tastes.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 05:51 |
^ feel free to ignore what others say ... nothing wrong with that.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 05:57 |
Mainly or not, I know it for myself that I got into Prog-Metal all the way from Classic Rock myself, and now it is the genre I have the strongest bonds with. I do not believe I will outgrow it with age, as I have already discovered groups that do not swim on the surface and that are deep enough to be returning to all my life long.
By the way, Mike, I agree with Rocktopus for once, that the poll doesn't reveal as much information as we would have liked. Do the people who said they liked Prog-Metal meant a) they had nothing against the genre, b) they liked a few bands, c) they had general knowledge in the genre? I know that it isn't all important and the aim of the poll is one and only - to find how age is related to sympathy to Prog-Metal - but there are all these little nuances that we can not reveal even if we make every single poster tell about his relation to PM.
-- Ivan
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 05:59 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ feel free to ignore what others say ... nothing wrong with that. 
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So you actually trust that the polls in the archives tells the truth?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:17 |
^ no, but I'm looking at the results and the posts and in this case, I rather believe the poll result than your statement that you "know that Prog Metal is mainly for young men".
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Trickster F.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:26 |
Well, it is a known fact that 50% of PA members are 25 years old and younger. From this poll we know that more than 70% of such listeners like Prog-Metal. Other half of PA visitors are older than 25 years old. 55% of them enjoy Prog-Metal.
What conclusion can be drawn? Prog-Metal is a genre popular amongst both communities - young and old, however, more youngsters listen to Prog-Metal than the grown-ups. This has something to do with Prog-Metal's more modern approach to songwriting, however, I wouldn't be surprised if each person who voted 'yes' also enjoyed Classic Symphonic Prog, modern sound not being a trait of which.
-- Ivan
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philippe
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:28 |
prog metal is not for young people in particular but for people without a sense of "aesthetic", people blinded by "easy" musical expressions and conventions. Prog metal is for the alienated mass.
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imoeng
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:32 |
philippe wrote:
prog metal is not for young people in particular but for people without a sense of "aesthetic", people blinded by "easy" musical expressions and conventions. Prog metal is for the alienated mass. |
Excuse me, I dont know whether its my english or what.. But you were saying prog metal is for people without a sense of aestethic and using easy musical expressions and conventions...
Is that right??
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Trickster F.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:35 |
imoeng wrote:
philippe wrote:
prog metal is not for young people in particular but for people without a sense of "aesthetic", people blinded by "easy" musical expressions and conventions. Prog metal is for the alienated mass. |
Excuse me, I dont know whether its my english or what.. But you were saying prog metal is for people without a sense of aestethic and using easy musical expressions and conventions...
Is that right?? |
You heard/read him correctly. He isn't the only one who thinks so either.
-- Ivan
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imoeng
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:39 |
ivansfr0st wrote:
imoeng wrote:
philippe wrote:
prog metal is not for young people in particular but for people without a sense of "aesthetic", people blinded by "easy" musical expressions and conventions. Prog metal is for the alienated mass. |
Excuse me, I dont know whether its my english or what.. But you were saying prog metal is for people without a sense of aestethic and using easy musical expressions and conventions...
Is that right?? |
You heard/read him correctly. He isn't the only one who thinks so either.
-- Ivan |
ahh, okay.. I have LOTS of homework right now.. 
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:42 |
Doesn't matter if you trust me, or your own poll. The answer is the same.
I've been to a DT concert  (Ha-ha. Don't wanna talk about it) and seen the fortysomething Rush nerds there. Nothings all black and white.
I've also seen Opeth and Enslaved in concert and was one of the oldest
in the audience. These are far from the most extreme ones, and thev've
both been around for ca. 15 years.
The poll is pointless because most things
that contains extreme noise, attracts young men (boys) first and
foremost. And an official prog-metal poll in a newspaper with random
representatives of all ages or whatever, would prove that even clearer
than a poll for members of a progarchive.
Edited by Rocktopus - July 05 2006 at 06:52
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:44 |
^ let's try that again without aggression, please?
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Trickster F.
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:45 |
What do Enslaved prefer to play live, Rocktopus?  Any preferred tracks, or whole albums?
-- Ivan
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Rocktopus
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 06:53 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ let's try that again without aggression, please?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 05 2006 at 07:01 |
^ thanks.
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