Split Enz are finally on the Archives!!!!

@ Hyperborea: transforming a post into a personal issue is the closest way to see the post deleted or the entire thread closed. I believe the discussion here is related to Split Enz and not to the posters.

Edited by Atkingani - May 29 2007 at 20:12

Asyte2c00 wrote: micky wrote: Hyperborea wrote: To cheesecakemouse...what a prat you are...this guy knew, probably still does, more about music than you ever will. As for being a panel beater, i hope he catches up with you sooner, rather than later...split enz prog   Sorry had to change my sodden boxers...keep peeing them when i hear they are prog. ^ why hasn't this asshole been banned yet....   is he to be warned again....   Micky, Split Enz over Japan?   and to think you added Rain Tree Crow (effectively a reunited Japan) and not Japna itself is  bweildering to me and many new wave fans alike.  .    I made a double take when I had originally saw Rain Tree Crow in PA and not Japan.    Japan is more prog than Split Enz.  I enjoy SE, but to see this less progressive new wave band enter PA over more outwardly progressive-new wave rock outfits like Japan is just shocking.    No hard feelings

none taken ....  I think you know I pushed for Japan.... and was outvoted.  Wasn't the first... though it was the last hahahhaha. 

Hopefully they will have a place on the site if something can be done with the AR sub-genre.  Which the AR team has been working on.

i think i'm vindicated in what i said...cheesecakemouse was doubting the opinions of a person from NZ, regardless of occupation, as being insignificant. I stand by the fact he has/had more musical knowledge than him (chesecakemouse).

Ok.......you don't.

Edited by Hyperborea - May 29 2007 at 20:50

Hyperborea wrote: i think i'm vindicated in what i said...cheesecakemouse was doubting the opinions of a person from NZ, regardless of occupation, as being insignificant. I stand by the fact he has/had more musical knowledge than him (chesecakemouse).

And how would you measure musical knowledge ? By the amount of music listened to ? By the number of University degrees accumulated ? By the alignment of taste with certain groups ?
I wonder if your estimate of his knowledge is based more on a similarity of  views. And as for being from New Zealand, the relevancy escapes me.
So I believe I have some reason to think that you are merely stirring up trouble, as taking any music topic with so much energy requires a lack of anything better to do.

Hyperborea wrote: No troll, but i have an opinion....and balls..definitely.....sick of non-prog bands appearing on here...maybe time i moved back to a more idealistic prog site...rather than one that ponders to the masses, Regardles of music significance.

Nice to see your True Colours. I've made some Mental Notes re : your various quotes. Time & Tide pass, but your "snobbishness" seems to stay put over the inclusion of one group. I have Conflicting Emotions when it comes to "elitism", as this site includes in its' goals the participatory effect of community, i.e. the so called "masses" should have their say. As if this site has a million Britney Spears/Beyonce/Backstreet Boys' fans just waiting to take over. I think Waiata you're trying to say is that this band does not meet with your narrow definition as to what prog is. You seem to go into a Frenzy at the mere idea that others may have an opinion that differs from your own. If freedom of opinion & the inherent possibility that it may support something with which you disagree with, then I say See Ya Round.
Balls, is when you stand up for something that may cause more than just a dissenting argument. Email debates are not perilous except to one's ego, when one is shown to be, if not wrong, then not completely right. Moving to a more idealistic prog site seems like a web site devoted & limited to one person's views. After all, if one person has a different understanding of what is prog, does that mean this idealistic site loses its' idealism. And to finish, the word is "panders", not ponders. This site may indeed pander to its members ( I can't see that we are sufficient in number to be called "masses"), but again, that is part of the site's stated goals. The site is a shared experience, not a top down handing off of the prog commandments. Then recall the musical significance afforded the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Elvis, Robert Johnson, Louis Armstrong and others at their inception. Time will answer that question, not you , nor I, nor anyone at this site. The only factual statement that you can lay claim to is what you like or dislike, what you think is prog or not. You, and many before you do not have an objective means of defining ANY genre of music, much less what should be listed among musical acts here at PA.
So if you have actual arguments, points, or opinions to offer, fine. But the simple claim that you somehow know better is not impressive. And the ongoing shuffle should be brought to a quick end. If it is something you feel so strongly about, leave. There are groups, ranking, ratings etc, that I disagree with here at PA. But nowhere is it stated that they are unquestionable or consist of absolute truth. They are just the reflection of the community's opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

Damn, I couldn't work Dizrythmia in ...



Edited by debrewguy - May 29 2007 at 21:45

Hyperborea wrote: i think i'm vindicated in what i said...cheesecakemouse was doubting the opinions of a person from NZ, regardless of occupation, as being insignificant. I stand by the fact he has/had more musical knowledge than him (chesecakemouse).

You made out that this guy was an authroity on music but without any basis to measure it, I was making a joke as a result.
Do not insult me, I feel you are trolling. And because of that I am not going to waste any more time on you.
Thankyou.