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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2013 at 15:26
Those 79' EPs/singles are actually not that hard to find because they were added to the reissue of the debut (5 bonus tracks), so you actually might know them already.
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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2013 at 15:39
I had so much punk Lps and Eps. Even an orioginal copy of the first Buzzcoks signed by Howard Devoto. All gone now. I gave them to a friend. No regrets. I've never been a collector.
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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2013 at 15:47
Hum, all that makes me think of this :
 
BERNARD SZAJNER : BRUTE REASON (1983)
 
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Points: 25 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2013 at 09:50
Certainly interesting, although I don't see why you would classify that as punk.
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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2013 at 10:06

You're right, but Szjajner and Devoto came from punk.

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Points: 20590 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2013 at 10:08
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

The Cardiacs.
 
I'd say Doctors Of Madness
 
Their first album is really punk-glam-prog and dates from early 76... and it's quite good tooClap
 
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First album of the bassist of the Stranglers.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Most punk was NOT progressive.  It was a change from the established commercial forms of rock, for sure.  But progressive it was not. 
 
Punk was meant to strip away all of the so-called pretensions of rock and pop, and create a form that would allow anyone to pick up an instrument and form a band.  Agression was important.  Ability was not.  The entire basis of the genre was anti-prog.
 
Malcolm McLaren even dubbed fis creation, The Sex Pistols, as "The great rock & Roll swindle".  In effect he was saying that he could bring together the most untalented individuals he could find, and successfully sell it to the recording industry and the general public, and make a fortune from them.  Surprisingly, Johnny (Rotten) Lydon actually managed to develop some artistry in his music not very long after.
 
And like any music style, a few artists managed to raise the genre above it's basic roots, and insert some true creativity.  Although a few of these artists added some progressive elements to some of their songs, that would not serve to categorize the genre as progressive.
 
Progressive-regressive?  Maybe.
pretty much this.

Unless you talk about proto-punk, I'm surprised no mentioned Hawkwind (or maybe they have and I didn't notice).

Or post-punk for that matter. That can be pretty progressive.

Actually I was thinking many of the projects from (ex-)Bauhaus members, like Tones on Tail, Love and Rockets, and Peter Murphy's solo stuff, those aren't really much post-punk but they are pretty progressive.
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Very much enjoy both The Stranglers and Magazine. Good stuff if you like artsy, adventurous punk/post-punk. Their later albums aren't bad either, but more New Wave-ish. Don't know if they were pioneers or actually first in playing that kind of music though.


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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 15:03
Not the first, I think. For me, bands like Magazine, Japan and others are the illegitimate children of Roxy music.
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Just listen to "Bitchin" of the early Stranglers. Roxy is there :
 
The Stranglers - Foel Studio Demos 1976
 
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Points: 6797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 15:30
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Not the first, I think. For me, bands like Magazine, Japan and others are the illegitimate children of Roxy music.
 
They may well be influenced by RM but i don't think Roxy were anything to do with Punk (neither were Japan for that matter) Magazine however, sprang directly from punk
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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 16:01
I don't agree completely. The sound of the Devoto's Magazine is inspired by punk but by Roxy too. David Sylvian in many ways comes from Brian Ferry.
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Points: 7251 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2013 at 19:29
Ultravox : Artificial Life. That song, I think, is punk and prog.
 
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Points: 18572 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 20 2013 at 11:04
Hi,
 
I wanna joke and say it was The Ramones!
 
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Points: 25 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2013 at 06:19
Actually the Dead Kennedys had pretty complicated songs ( but not the In God We Trust Inc. EP).

Besides the surf and other influences, the songs have a lot of different parts. I was in a band that did a cover of one of their songs, and it must have taken 2 or 3 band practices to get it down. Not that the individual parts were hard to play, but there are lots of changes.
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Points: 5012 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:53
Faust? Neu! maybe?
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