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mr_freeze338
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 14:17 |
Hell, no band is completely original. They all borrow elements from different influences. DT`s being metal and prog. They weren`t he first band to mix those together, but one of them.
It's pretty well impossible to say DT doesn`t have any good musicians, whether you like their music or not. John Petrucci`s been writting colums in guitar world magazine for a reason. He knows what he`s doing.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 14:43 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Yeah but it's all tongue-in-cheek - The reed-meister is a harmless "Yonner" from Bolton, that northern town that Peter Kaye comes from....It's only about 6/7 miles from where I live, whereabout in Wales are you ? |
I knew there was something weird about him ,he knew it was bed time last night so whats with this sao tome or whatever. I'm from Cardiff by the way
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Swinton MCR
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Joined: August 19 2004
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 14:51 |
I'll be up your way on Sunday - For the Semi-final, few pints of Brains....
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:03 |
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Reed Lover
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Joined: July 16 2004
Location: Sao Tome and Pr
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:43 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
But I'd still like to know where I became 'geeky' - unless that is an assumption about all people who work with computers....In which case I'd say it was about 50% true......
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Incredible that you should get that extremely tiny nod in your direction Swint,old boy.
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Swinton MCR
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Joined: August 19 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:48 |
Aha - I notice everything, but i'm stuck in at the moment - too dangerous to venture out coz all my local pubs are full of Eccles yobbos - looking to avenge the poor sod - who got his head kicked in behind one of my local pubs - The Lord Nelson on the A666 (Bolton Road) - Has the number of the beast got anything to do with it !!!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:56 |
Swinton MCR wrote:
Aha - I notice everything, but i'm stuck in at the moment - too dangerous to venture out coz all my local pubs are full of Eccles yobbos - looking to avenge the poor sod - who got his head kicked in behind one of my local pubs - The Lord Nelson on the A666 (Bolton Road) - Has the number of the beast got anything to do with it !!!
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Well,I was born on the A666 (well,at least a house on the A666-not in a shoe box a la Monty Python ) and now live just 66 yds from that very A666 (Blackburn Rd,Bolton)
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gdub411
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Joined: August 24 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:58 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Oh well these things happen
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Just remember Snow Dog and Lagos that there is a certain luxury posting on a forum-you are not face to face.The way I see it is that I would use the same language and style if we were sat together in the real world,would you be prepared to behave likewise if i was looking you in the eye?You would NOT call me a "moron" or a "little f er" I can assure you.
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yeah....whatever moron. 
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 15:59 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I knew there was something weird about him ,he knew it was bed time last night so whats with this sao tome or whatever. I'm from Cardiff by the way
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Sao Tome is 1hr behind BST,here it is 20.00.That's where I live.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 16:01 |
gdub411 wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Oh well these things happen
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Just remember Snow Dog and Lagos that there is a certain luxury posting on a forum-you are not face to face.The way I see it is that I would use the same language and style if we were sat together in the real world,would you be prepared to behave likewise if i was looking you in the eye?You would NOT call me a "moron" or a "little f er" I can assure you.
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yeah....whatever moron. 
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You wanna piece of me Dorkboy?
I'm amazed you managed to spell norom correctly!
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gdub411
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 16:05 |
Reed Lover wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Oh well these things happen
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Just remember Snow Dog and Lagos that there is a certain luxury posting on a forum-you are not face to face.The way I see it is that I would use the same language and style if we were sat together in the real world,would you be prepared to behave likewise if i was looking you in the eye?You would NOT call me a "moron" or a "little f er" I can assure you.
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yeah....whatever moron. 
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You wanna piece of me Dorkboy?
I'm amazed you managed to spell norom correctly!
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Well I knew it was either M-O-R-O-N or R-E-E-D-L-O-V-E-R 
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Certif1ed
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 16:57 |
mr_freeze338 wrote:
Hell, no band is completely original. They all borrow elements from different influences.
If riffs are elements, then OK - but I don't think they are. Riffs occupy too much of a piece of music to be just influence - unless you consider that Vanilla Ice was "influenced" by Queen...
DT`s being metal and prog. They weren`t he first band to mix those together, but one of them.
It's pretty well impossible to say DT doesn`t have any good musicians, whether you like their music or not.
It's totally possible... but I will resist temptation this once "Good" is such a subjective word, and requires qualification.
John Petrucci`s been writting colums in guitar world magazine for a reason. He knows what he`s doing.
Must resist, must resist...
Damn. I can't!
Of course he knows what he's doing - he's writing columns in a magazine    |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 17:25 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I knew there was something weird about him ,he knew it was bed time last night so whats with this sao tome or whatever. I'm from Cardiff by the way
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Sao Tome is 1hr behind BST,here it is 20.00.That's where I live.
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Yeah alright
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Xanadu
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Joined: March 18 2005
Location: Sweden
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 17:54 |
I think the drumming intro on 6:00 is takin from a drum solo by neil peart on All The Worlds A Stage
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"Oh, yes, sitting-the great leveler. From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?"
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hdfisch
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 25 2004
Location: Germany
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:16 |
Reed Lover wrote:
The reason people hate DT is that they are an abomination to mankind!
1. They cant play very well.Playing fast is a way of covering up lack of ability. 2.James La Brie cannot sing. 3.As far as I can see they have never written any songs. 4. As above but...........................................any tunes. 5.They couldnt sell out a telephone box in most countries. 6. Only spotty nerdy-boys and geeky middle-aged computer analysts like them. 7.They make ELP sound talented by comparison. 8. I dont like them,so they must be crap.

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I'm not such a great DT-Fan as I used to be, but these statements I can't leave without comment:
1. How can you play fast, if you can't play well????
2. James LaBrie is not a great singer (I also would wish they'd another one), but there are worse ones!
3. Just listen to I&W!
4.Just listen to "Metropolis Pt.2" or "SDOIT"!
5.I think they filled already enough big halls!
6.I am middle-aged,but not a computer analyst, but I like them, although my favorite Prog-Metal band is POS not DT!
7.Would you call ELP seriously untalented?What kind of music are listening to? I don't think Prog! What are you doing in a Prog forum?
8.To call everything crap what one does not like is IMHO really the most unqualified statement ever. There is much stuff I don't like, even from the things on this site, but if it's not my taste is different from being crap (like Britney Spears or the alikes)!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:22 |
hdfisch wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
The reason people hate DT is that they are an abomination to mankind!
1. They cant play very well.Playing fast is a way of covering up lack of ability. 2.James La Brie cannot sing. 3.As far as I can see they have never written any songs. 4. As above but...........................................any tunes. 5.They couldnt sell out a telephone box in most countries. 6. Only spotty nerdy-boys and geeky middle-aged computer analysts like them. 7.They make ELP sound talented by comparison. 8. I dont like them,so they must be crap.

| I'm not such a great DT-Fan as I used to be, but these statements I can't leave without comment:
1. How can you play fast, if you can't play well????
2. James LaBrie is not a great singer (I also would wish they'd another one), but there are worse ones!
3. Just listen to I&W!
4.Just listen to "Metropolis Pt.2" or "SDOIT"!
5.I think they filled already enough big halls!
6.I am middle-aged,but not a computer analyst, but I like them, although my favorite Prog-Metal band is POS not DT!
7.Would you call ELP seriously untalented?What kind of music are listening to? I don't think Prog! What are you doing in a Prog forum?
8.To call everything crap what one does not like is IMHO really the most unqualified statement ever. There is much stuff I don't like, even from the things on this site, but if it's not my taste is different from being crap (like Britney Spears or the alikes)!
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Well Reed Lover, he makes a goodpoint. lets see some action!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:26 |
hdfisch wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
The reason people hate DT is that they are an abomination to mankind!
1. They cant play very well.Playing fast is a way of covering up lack of ability. 2.James La Brie cannot sing. 3.As far as I can see they have never written any songs. 4. As above but...........................................any tunes. 5.They couldnt sell out a telephone box in most countries. 6. Only spotty nerdy-boys and geeky middle-aged computer analysts like them. 7.They make ELP sound talented by comparison. 8. I dont like them,so they must be crap.

| I'm not such a great DT-Fan as I used to be, but these statements I can't leave without comment:
1. How can you play fast, if you can't play well????
**sigh****
2. James LaBrie is not a great singer (I also would wish they'd another one), but there are worse ones!
3. Just listen to I&W!
**sigh****
4.Just listen to "Metropolis Pt.2" or "SDOIT"!
**sigh******sigh****
5.I think they filled already enough big halls!
With laughter?
6.I am middle-aged,but not a computer analyst, but I like them, although my favorite Prog-Metal band is POS not DT!
It was a throwaway comment aimed at 2 forum members
7.Would you call ELP seriously untalented?What kind of music are listening to? I don't think Prog! What are you doing in a Prog forum?
*sigh* Sigh* c'mon for christsake!
8.To call everything crap what one does not like is IMHO really the most unqualified statement ever. There is much stuff I don't like, even from the things on this site, but if it's not my taste is different from being crap (like Britney Spears or the alikes)!
*sigh**sigh* Sigh* c'mon for christsake!!!! Lighten up a little.
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Po-faced and humourless? Prog Rock Fans? Never!!!
Now Peace!!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:29 |
It was a throwaway comment aimed at 2 forum members
Which 2?
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:31 |
Snow Dog wrote:
It was a throwaway comment aimed at 2 forum members
Which 2?
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Dont get paranoid!!!
Lagos and Swintonmcr!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 18:38 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
It was a throwaway comment aimed at 2 forum members
Which 2?
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Dont get paranoid!!!
Lagos and Swintonmcr!
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I didnt actually think you meant me, you dont know me....right? I was just curious
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