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crimson87
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 22:56 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
micky wrote:
there is no retro prog there.. not even a sniff of it... that makes them essential when looking at prog.
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Oh boy, homogenized Rush and Santana (instead of taboo Yes and/or Genesis influence) with shrieky vocals spouting nonsense! Let's not forget pointless, contextless noise! WOO! Now that's progressive, maaaan. Also let me stress again; no Yes or Genesis influence at all. Therefore they are progressive.
I'm tired of this sh*t. |
The Mars Volta is a love/hate band , that's for sure but in my book they are much more innovative than lets say...
Marillion IQ Pendragon TFK The Tangent Satellite Pallas Magenta Transatlantic Glasshammer Beardfish. Current DT Frost , Arena Collage , Gallahad...
Those bands bring nothing new to the scene , they just have that ye olde prog sound. I am probably being too harsh , not that I don't like this style or some of the bands listed but their proposal isn't that attractive after some time.
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Logan
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 23:13 |
crimson87 wrote:
King Crimson776 wrote:
micky wrote:
there is no retro prog there.. not even a sniff of it... that makes them essential when looking at prog.
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Oh boy, homogenized Rush and Santana (instead of taboo Yes and/or Genesis influence) with shrieky vocals spouting nonsense! Let's not forget pointless, contextless noise! WOO! Now that's progressive, maaaan. Also let me stress again; no Yes or Genesis influence at all. Therefore they are progressive.
I'm tired of this sh*t. |
The Mars Volta is a love/hate band , that's for sure but in my book they are much more innovative than lets say...
Marillion IQ Pendragon TFK The Tangent Satellite Pallas Magenta Transatlantic Glasshammer Beardfish. Current DT Frost , Arena Collage , Gallahad...
Those bands bring nothing new to the scene , they just have that ye olde prog sound. I am probably being too harsh , not that I don't like this style or some of the bands listed but their proposal isn't that attractive after some time. |
At least, Id say that they bring nothing new that is good to the scene. IMO of course. I think if they had more of a classic ye olde prog sound then I'd like 'em more. To me this stuff sounds like watered down Prog, and lacks the experimental, progressive spirit of many of the classic era.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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micky
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 23:22 |
Keppa4v wrote:
King Crimson776 wrote:
micky wrote:
there is no retro prog there.. not even a sniff of it... that makes them essential when looking at prog.
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Oh boy, homogenized Rush and Santana (instead of taboo Yes and/or Genesis influence) with shrieky vocals spouting nonsense! Let's not forget pointless, contextless noise! |
I'm tired of this sh*t. |
hahahha... I'm tired of all 3 of you all's sh*t
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: September 01 2009 at 23:27 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
micky wrote:
there is no retro prog there.. not even a sniff of it... that makes them essential when looking at prog.
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Oh boy, homogenized Rush and Santana (instead of taboo Yes and/or Genesis influence) with shrieky vocals spouting nonsense! Let's not forget pointless, contextless noise! WOO! Now that's progressive, maaaan. Also let me stress again; no Yes or Genesis influence at all. Therefore they are progressive.
I'm tired of this sh*t. |
when you are through being tired.. and decide to turn your brain back on.. and use it hahha can you give me ONE iota of a logical thought of how Rush inspired TMV.. and don't use ...they are 'heavy' can you give me ONE iota of a logic thought of how Santanta inspired TMV.. and don't use.. they are 'Latin' and use latin influences.. news.. that existed LONG before Santana  in fact... bonus points to having any respect... can you name one band that sounds anything remotely like TMV that weren't inspired BY TMV. I'm not a fan... so I am asking you... you appear to be the expert... I haven't heard them... in any of the albums I have.
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SonicDeath10
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Posted: September 02 2009 at 00:06 |
Logan wrote:
[QUOTE=crimson87] At least, Id say that they bring nothing new that is good to the scene. IMO of course. I think if they had more of a classic ye olde prog sound then I'd like 'em more. To me this stuff sounds like watered down Prog, and lacks the experimental, progressive spirit of many of the classic era.
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I don't really get that. I think they're very experimental with song structures, riffing, atmosphere, sound, and lyrics...
It's just that I think that experimentation sucks. I think that's what you mean too.
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"Good evening hippies." Bobby Boy
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 00:02 |
Thuffering Thukkertash
This thread is dying
Oh well it was fun while it lasted...
Thanks to all the great and not so great posts on my humble thread
Keep Yourself Alive!
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The Block
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Posted: October 19 2009 at 19:46 |
St. Anger does need some help.
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Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!
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rosenbach
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Posted: October 21 2009 at 02:38 |
As much as i like RPI i think is better to stay away from these 5 albums by well known bands:
BANCO: Capolinea (late 70's album with disco influence)
FORMULA 3: La grande casa
IL ROVESCIO DELLA MEDAGLIA: La biblia (heavy rock, nothing similar to Contaminazione)
LE ORME: Smogmagica (first Le Orme album i ever had, made me stay away from the band for years 'till i heard Felona e Sorona)
METAMORFOSI: … E fu il sesto giorno (some italian gospel in it)
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andrewbarrel
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:10 |
I personaly like The Final Cut very much, though I agree with some that the song Not Now John is a bit of an irritation; but the album definitely has some great stuff...!!!
As for Love Beach, its probably more like a pop-rock album, but musically I think it's Ok. Though If I had to recommend an ELP album, it deffinitely wouldn't be in the list.
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mohaveman
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:17 |
Here's my votes for addition to the Hal of Shame:
Did he have help from Madonna on this one?
"Illegal Alien": may be the most annoying song ever
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 17:25 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Lets See:
Wow. this is the worst you can get 8 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man by Hip Hop DJ's.
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Worse even than:
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I heard only one track from this abomination.  s galore.
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SonicDeath10
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 21:13 |
mohaveman wrote:
Here's my votes for addition to the Hal of Shame:
Did he have help from Madonna on this one?
"Illegal Alien": may be the most annoying song ever
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No, he actually had help from Adrian Belew. On the only good song on the album!
By the way, Illegal Alien is NOT on Invisible Touch. It's on the self titled album. 
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progrules
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: October 27 2009 at 15:00 |
manofmystery wrote:
i will not post in negative threads
i will not post in negative threads
i will not post in negative threads
fully agree with The Final Cut though, absolutely awful
damnit
i will not post in negative threads again
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Very positive thought ! 
But let's face it, one day we've done all the positive threads and then the negative are the ones that are left.
Anyway, here's my short list of anti recommendations.
1. A Golden Dream-Bel Air. No worries here, I'm still the only rating and review here. Very poor stuff. 
2. Opus I - Opus Est. Same here. Stay away unless you like awful vocals. 
3. Just a Reason to be out there - Jester's Joke.  Indeed a joke of an album but not in a positive way.
4. Dream or Reality - Tea for Two. When I heard this 15 years ago I wanted to smash the disk out of sheer disappointment  (Own fault, should have listened in the store)
5. Pawn Hearts and Lark's Tongue but I know that's just my opinion 
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: March 30 2010 at 07:02 |
As far as a negative thread this is one of the best IMHO
post away progheads....
just take it as seriously as it deservres dont get heated up over it - not all prog is golden!
such as this monster...
Coheed and cambria are my new pet hate 
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Raff
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Posted: March 30 2010 at 07:11 |
I strongly believe we need this now  ....
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progkidjoel
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Joined: March 02 2009
Location: Australia
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Points: 19643
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Posted: March 30 2010 at 07:14 |
I honestly think Love Beach is a decent effort; if it had decent album art I doubt it'd get as much crap as it does. The album art is terrible, but the music isn't bad, and its been growing on me over the past weeks quite significantly. 3  's from me 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 07:14 |
SonicDeath10 wrote:
mohaveman wrote:
Here's my votes for addition to the Hal of Shame:
Did he have help from Madonna on this one?
"Illegal Alien": may be the most annoying song ever
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By the way, Illegal Alien is NOT on Invisible Touch. It's on the self titled album.  |
Illegal Alien made a dash across the border to Invisible Touch.  As to Bowel Moving, I've had that one for a long time. My copy is a cut out. I'm pretty sure I got it damn cheap. The good points: Adrian Belew, Anita Hegerland, Maggie Reilly. But it basically fits in that same style of commercial music that some of the prog greats got into in the '80's. Unforgettable as much as we try.  "I remember how to forget"
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Chris S
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 07:35 |
The Final Cut.......................................Oh why can't we get quality like that nowadays. Beautiful album and progression to The Wall
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tamijo
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 08:03 |
The Division Bell, would be my choice if i had to pick a worst PF, but i dont !
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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presdoug
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Location: Canada
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Posted: March 31 2010 at 08:35 |
Triumvirat's Russian Roulette Not only did they create the best prog of the seventies (Illusions On A Double, Spartacus) ,but this last album is about the worst (1980) Russian Roulette is a stinker
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