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 I met the members of Black Flag thru a freind at the Showbox Theatre in Seattle in the earlt 80's and you know what?They were good musicians who play that crappy on purpose.I thought that was a waste.Lets face it any music that undermines musicianship whether it is out of defiance like punk rock or not giving a crap about anything close to real music like rap is a outrage.They should be ashamed.

I just get sick and tired of the same old boy meets girl and I love you so much BS and I think Progressive Rock is the best format to counter that.If you are playing complex music you dont have time to think with your dick.You cant say that about punk which went pop in the 80's and made me want to puke.

AtomHeartMother wrote: wow, they have a horrible argument, their preety much saying, prog rock  is crap because they use creativity, talent, and the heads. this is halarious

 

They don't use any of that...

I've never heard any punk song with either creativity, talent or brains... I can't name one punk or a band in the punk genre that fits for such nice words.

 

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Teaflax wrote: krauthead wrote: They don't use any of that... I've never heard any punk song with either creativity, talent or brains... I can't name one punk or a band in the punk genre that fits for such nice words.   Oh, for the love of...   Well, how about Henry Rollins of Black Flag? He's an actor, runs a publishing company, is a writer, performes stand up-like spoken word shows and his solo band had some serious Metal chops.   Besides, there are plenty of Punk bands and artists who have been more creative and groundbreaking than at least the lower dregs of Prog.   John Lydon's PIL turned out an album with Steve Vai, Ginger Baker, Bill Laswell and Ryuichi Sakamoto that was way ahead of its time and still holds up today.   Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat started Fugazi, which was the catalyst for Emo, which is where At The Drive In came from, and two of them later started a little band called The Mars Volta.   The Minutemen and The Meat Puppets are both Punk bands that sound like nothing else before nor since and had some serious chops (certainly more than many of the rock bands that Prog fans reflexively accept).   The US Hardcore Punk scene gave birth to Thrash Punk, which begat Thrash Metal, which is a basis for Prog Metal   The list goes on. And I'd rather listen to a whipsmart, groundbreaking band like The Dead Kennnedys than a tired, substandard retread like Galleon any day.   And, for the record, there's a lot of skill involved in playing fast and tight. Not too many Punk bands manage both, but when they do, it's something special.   Lawdy... Do some of you people get paid to be this narrow-minded? I'd hate to think you do it of your own free will.

Just ignore 'em.

Teaflax wrote: And, for the record, there's a lot of skill involved in playing fast and tight. Not too many Punk bands manage both, but when they do, it's something special.

Yep, I'm not a guitar player, but I heard it takes a lot of exercise to play those Ramone tunes right.

Modern HC is an extension of punk and some of that is very very techy... DEP could compete with Watchtower and they also have a much greater variety of styles in their songs (I still prefer Watchtower, though). Most punk is simple. Most metal's simple. Hell, most "prog"'s simple these days...

goose wrote: Hell, most "prog"'s simple these days...

nay.