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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 17:52
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

It's quite funny... Some people were disappointed by albums that are widely considered masterpieces! Well, we're all different, and this is a good thing indeed.Wink

BTW, how come that no one mentioned one of the biggest prog disappointments of all time - Asia's self-titled debut album?Confused
Which reminds me, and I know I'll be slated for this, but I had high hopes when I bought UK's first album - but it just doesn't click with me - 4 great musicians who just don't quite gel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 18:46
"Under Wraps" by Jethro Tull.
...???!!??? -- you'll, probably, say: "Had you have any expectations about this one?!?"
Yes, because I read no critics, nothing. Having (and liking) their 60's and 70's stuff, I just couldn't expect for such a disaster album from the brilliant band... And I bought it... Alas!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 18:46
Return to Forever - Romantic warrior - probably their worst and cheesy, equal bad as Light as a feather
 
KC- In the wake of Poeidon - without direction.
 
KC - Red - Crucify me, but I think it's plain and boring.
 
TMV - Frances the Mute - pretentiousness and "experimentalism" can bild trash like this.
 
Deep Purple - WDWTWA - a disapointment after Machine Head. Only Rat Bat Blue and Woman from Tojyo are very good songs - the others are plain.
 
PF - The Final Cut - cheesy and boring. I don't care about Waters' pain if it can't be described in a way that can be felt by others. Miserable end of the PF.
PF - AMLOR - popish Floyd. TDB is far better.
 
David ilmour - On an Island - It reminds me his first solo album, but with the absence of great tracks like "There's no way out of here".
 
GENESIS - Nursery Crime. Listen to this album after Foxtrot and SEBTP, and the comparison isn't so good to the first.
BANCO - Io sono nato libero - I like thier two initial albums, but this Pavaroti's nightmare is awful.
 
PFM - Jet Lag - goodbye melodic italian prog. Welcome jazzy violin. But nobody deserves Bernardo Lanzetti...
 
Le Orme - Il Fiume - Didn't expect great things, but listening to its wonderful succesor filled my heart with hope. It was in vain.
 
Mostly Autumn - The last bright light - Bordeom and pale atempts of sounding floydish. Awful male singer.
 
There's a lot of other disapointments, but after reading the comments above, a lot of them was contemplated.
 
Ah, the last one - Moody Blues - Octave - sad end of the wonderful quintet. sad goodbye for Mike Pinder.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 19:19
Another one that disappointed me was Gong's Continental Circus.  It is not at all like their other music from that time.
The music I enjoy is complex; varied; deep and well played.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 19:26
Originally posted by crimson thing crimson thing wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

It's quite funny... Some people were disappointed by albums that are widely considered masterpieces! Well, we're all different, and this is a good thing indeed.Wink

BTW, how come that no one mentioned one of the biggest prog disappointments of all time - Asia's self-titled debut album?Confused
Which reminds me, and I know I'll be slated for this, but I had high hopes when I bought UK's first album - but it just doesn't click with me - 4 great musicians who just don't quite gel.
 
I had exactly the same experience! I bought the album with VERY high expectations, but allthough I can see the musicianship, I never really liked it. The overall sound is too cold for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 20:14
Everything after Gong's radio gnome invisible trilogy was quite a dissapointment for me. Gazeuse, espresso II  and shamal are good albums, but the magic is gone...
Same story for the Soft Machine after Third.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 20:43
ELP - Brain Salad Surgery

Loved the first and Trilogy, but this one was just boring and over-long. Karn Evil 9 is a joke!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 22:02
The prog albums that have disappointed me the most would be:

1. Tales from Topographic Oceans by Yes - It's just too much. I expected it to be as good as Close to the Edge, but it really isn't. Mostly, it sounds like two painstakingly long discs of nothing but jamming. It's too ambitious. Whatever the idea behind this album was, even though the members of the band are all very skilled, Yes' talent was simply not enough to make this album enjoyable.
2. Permanent Waves by Rush - Everyone adores it, but I just can't see why. To me it sounds watery and boring. I can't see what the hype is about.
3. Empire by Queensrÿche - Same thing as with Permanent Waves, everyone loves it, but I can't see what's so fantastic about it. Maybe I just need to listen to it more...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2006 at 22:54
Originally posted by Myxamatosis Myxamatosis wrote:

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery

Loved the first and Trilogy, but this one was just boring and over-long. Karn Evil 9 is a joke!



hahahah... for once... I'm not laughing Wink  Far from a joke I'd say but  for what it's worth I've never put Karn Evil 9 up with the Close the Edge's, Hamburger Concerto's, Zarathustra's, and Supper's Ready's of the prog world.  It's too discumbobulated for me.  The musicianship is nothing short of incredible.... the composition itself..... nah....  Tarkus I thought was ELP's shining moment... with Toccata not far behind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2006 at 09:08
  My most disappointing album of all time would be And Then There were Three. It is not such a bad album but it told me that the Genesis I loved was dead andgone. No more creative vocalising and intrigueing lyrics from Peter and atmospheric guitar playying from Steve, istrumental tracks or even keyboard solos from Tony and Phil Collins brilliant drumming was being subsumed by machines. Tony Banks also said that this was the album he was least happy with and Phil Collins said it had good parts and a couple of good tracks only.
 
The band had decided to give away prog and rather than a rebirth it was more of a death . At the time the Rolling Stone review of it described it as an album in poor taste  proved by it going to number one . It was one of the most profound reviews I ever read in that magazine which often gave prog a hard time.The  Americanised lyrics were quite nauseating also. It was hard to believe that the same band had four years previously done The Lamb my favorite album of all time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2006 at 09:14
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Relayer.  Period.  (Yup, I know I'm tempting fate here...LOL)


hahah... I feel it is one of Yes's most overrated albums... 
 
It's a tough one to rate overall because side one contains the best epic of all time and the second side doesn't have that much to it. But just for the first side it is one of my favorites.I think I was playing that side for 4 months as against two weeks for the more highly rated CTTE.
 
Still if others tell you it is a classic and you feel it is only ordinary the disappointent is likely to be greater.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2006 at 09:30
Originally posted by crimson thing crimson thing wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

It's quite funny... Some people were disappointed by albums that are widely considered masterpieces! Well, we're all different, and this is a good thing indeed.Wink

BTW, how come that no one mentioned one of the biggest prog disappointments of all time - Asia's self-titled debut album?Confused
Which reminds me, and I know I'll be slated for this, but I had high hopes when I bought UK's first album - but it just doesn't click with me - 4 great musicians who just don't quite gel.


The experience I had with UK's debut was that, when I first listened to it, it didn't impress me too much - then, after a couple more listens, it become one of my favourite albums in prog. Asia, however... Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 13:56
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Myxamatosis Myxamatosis wrote:

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery

Loved the first and Trilogy, but this one was just boring and over-long. Karn Evil 9 is a joke!



hahahah... for once... I'm not laughing Wink  Far from a joke I'd say but  for what it's worth I've never put Karn Evil 9 up with the Close the Edge's, Hamburger Concerto's, Zarathustra's, and Supper's Ready's of the prog world.  It's too discumbobulated for me.  The musicianship is nothing short of incredible.... the composition itself..... nah....  Tarkus I thought was ELP's shining moment... with Toccata not far behind.

Yeah, the musicianship is amazing but the song is just ridiculous. It's too long and too many of the sections sound very similar. I usually get bored with it 5 minutes in when I try to listen to it...if there was some more variation then it would have been more listenable. One of the only good things about BSS is the cover. It is one of the most over-rated albums on this website (or any prog website, for that matter).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 14:22
Ashlee Simpson - I Am Me Angry
 
I'm dissapointed in anyone who bought this rubbish
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 17:00
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

The prog albums that have disappointed me the most would be:

2. Permanent Waves by Rush - Everyone adores it, but I just can't see why. To me it sounds watery and boring. I can't see what the hype is about.
 
I agree on that. The first three songs are great individually (and much better live than the versions on here), but as an album it just doesn't work for me anymore.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:38
In a glass House by Gentle Giant was a bit of a let down for me, don't get me wrong it has moments of absolute brilliance its just that on this album and also Power & Glory and Freehand they seem to borrow a bit too heavily from Jethro Tull and Yes a couple of songs are clear plagerisms, take for example the song No God's a Man on the Power and Glory the vocals styles are almost identical to Jon Anderson's on the Yes song We Have Heavan on the album Fragile. Also the song In a Glass House has a lot a borrowing from Jethro Tull's Thich as a Brick. I know just a bout ever musician on God's green Earth has plagerised but still its incredibly annoying!



  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:50
Originally posted by Myxamatosis Myxamatosis wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Myxamatosis Myxamatosis wrote:

ELP - Brain Salad Surgery

Loved the first and Trilogy, but this one was just boring and over-long. Karn Evil 9 is a joke!



hahahah... for once... I'm not laughing Wink  Far from a joke I'd say but  for what it's worth I've never put Karn Evil 9 up with the Close the Edge's, Hamburger Concerto's, Zarathustra's, and Supper's Ready's of the prog world.  It's too discumbobulated for me.  The musicianship is nothing short of incredible.... the composition itself..... nah....  Tarkus I thought was ELP's shining moment... with Toccata not far behind.

Yeah, the musicianship is amazing but the song is just ridiculous. It's too long and too many of the sections sound very similar. I usually get bored with it 5 minutes in when I try to listen to it...if there was some more variation then it would have been more listenable. One of the only good things about BSS is the cover. It is one of the most over-rated albums on this website (or any prog website, for that matter).


oh no....not overrated my friend....  while Karn Evil 9 isn't up at the very top of the list on the side-long epics (IMO of course).... many here would consider it underrated along with ELP in general.  While Karn Evil 9 (to put it in baseball terms) wasn't a home run I'd say it was a 3 bagger hahahah. The sections don't work well for me...but that's about it... musianship-wise ..it torches anything Genesis did..or many groups did for that matter.  Toccata is really the gem on that album.. and going by threads and polls here... you'd never know it.  Short of Los Canarios 'Ciclos' I can't think of a better (and far and away most original/creative) classical adaptation ever done by a prog group. Jerusalem..while not English and familiar with it's history...is I understand a great version of a song that is reverred by the English.  As far as Lake ballads go...Still You Turn Me On.. is a great song to huddle up with your favorite prog chick with (though the infamous rhyming section is cringworthy)... and Benny the Bouncer is another great one in the line of ELP 'joke' songs.  Sorry it's not overrated... that would assume that many posters are singing it's praises here...and that...they are not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 19:07
Originally posted by man@arms man@arms wrote:

Ashlee Simpson - I Am Me Angry
 
I'm dissapointed in anyone who bought this rubbish
 
I bought the record just so I could burn itLOLEvil Smile
 
 
When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
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