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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 01:25
still thinking about this as well, hoping for the very best


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2009 at 08:04
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

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Don't underestimate yourself sir. 
Every time I see this thread bumped up by you time and time again I get a lump in my throat.
 
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Heart thanks Brian... and yes... I saw that on CNN.com this morning... it's enough to rip your heart out.  I can understand or rationalize many things.... but not that.

 Monsters.. that is exactly what they are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:47
Interesting article i found on MSN this morning:

The body of an 8-year-old girl was discovered this week. She had been missing since March 27 and was last seen near her home in Tracy, Calif. (Read this MSNBC article for more about the Sandra Cantu case.)

When a child goes missing, the unrelenting media coverage can be frightening. According to a landmark NISMART–2study by the U.S. Department of Justice, as many as 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year. (While released in 2002, these statistics endure as the best national estimates for the number of missing children.)

The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children clarifies: "Children may become missing due to abduction by nonfamily members or abduction by family members … as a result of running away from home … due to becoming lost, injured or otherwise missing to their parents or guardians."

But how pervasive a threat is stranger abduction?

Here is a breakdown of categories of child abductions:

Family abductions: The DOJ study estimates that 203,900 children are abducted by a family member. The Sean Goldman case, involving a boy whose mother took him to Brazil, is a family abduction. (Search for more about the Sean Goldman family abduction.)

Nonfamily abductions: An estimated 58,200 children are abducted by a nonfamily perpetrator. On July 15, 2002, Samantha Runnion was kidnapped outside her home by a man she did not know who claimed to be looking for a lost dog. (Search for more about the Samantha Runnion nonfamily abduction.)

So, have abductions by strangers increased or decreased? The DOJ study finds:"No scientific basis exists to conclude that there has been a true decline — although it is possible. On the other hand, NISMART–2 results do not indicate an increase in abductions by strangers." 

Extra: Another disturbing category of missing child is the "stereotypical kidnapping." (How does the DOJ define "stereotypical kidnapping"?) The abduction of Elizabeth Smart, who was taken from her bedroom on June 5, 2002, fits this description. (Search for more about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping.) 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 18:23
my god.... 800,000 a year?  That boggles the mind.. it really does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 18:36
^ Yeah that figure hit me like a ton of bricks. I had no idea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 18:43
actually Brian.. sort of left speechless..  I had no idea.. obviously the notion that it is a unsafe world out there... but seeing a hard number like that sort of puts a sense of just how bad it is.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 19:09
^ And that stat is now 7 years old!
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2009 at 19:22
makes me think of that signature I had from Thomas....  as I posted earlier....  I just can't make any sense of that.  When I saw that story about Sandra Cantu on CNN's site the other day...  it just numbed me.  You can rationalize some of the violence we inflict on each other...  even understand it to a point... but I will never... ever understand what would drive a person to harm a child. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 10:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 10:47
Heart  good man 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 11:39
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Interesting article i found on MSN this morning:

The body of an 8-year-old girl was discovered this week. She had been missing since March 27 and was last seen near her home in Tracy, Calif. (Read this MSNBC article for more about the Sandra Cantu case.)

When a child goes missing, the unrelenting media coverage can be frightening. According to a landmark NISMART–2study by the U.S. Department of Justice, as many as 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year. (While released in 2002, these statistics endure as the best national estimates for the number of missing children.)

The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children clarifies: "Children may become missing due to abduction by nonfamily members or abduction by family members … as a result of running away from home … due to becoming lost, injured or otherwise missing to their parents or guardians."

But how pervasive a threat is stranger abduction?

Here is a breakdown of categories of child abductions:



Family abductions: The DOJ study estimates that 203,900 children are abducted by a family member. The Sean Goldman case, involving a boy whose mother took him to Brazil, is a family abduction. (Search for more about the Sean Goldman family abduction.)

Nonfamily abductions: An estimated 58,200 children are abducted by a nonfamily perpetrator. On July 15, 2002, Samantha Runnion was kidnapped outside her home by a man she did not know who claimed to be looking for a lost dog. (Search for more about the Samantha Runnion nonfamily abduction.)

So, have abductions by strangers increased or decreased? The DOJ study finds:"No scientific basis exists to conclude that there has been a true decline — although it is possible. On the other hand, NISMART–2 results do not indicate an increase in abductions by strangers." 

Extra: Another disturbing category of missing child is the "stereotypical kidnapping." (How does the DOJ define "stereotypical kidnapping"?) The abduction of Elizabeth Smart, who was taken from her bedroom on June 5, 2002, fits this description. (Search for more about the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping.) 



And they arrested a Sunday school teacher in the death of Sandra Cantu.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 19:46
^ did you see her pic... god... she looked evil. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 20:38
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ did you see her pic... god... she looked evil. 


and she isn't even a nun.  Tongue

It is a sad story. I am guessing that it was an accident and she freaked out and things escalated. At least I am hoping that it was an accident.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2009 at 20:44
you would think ...like to think at least that it was an accident... as I posted before.  You can't rationalize someone killing...I mean... look hard at Sandra's pic... what kind of monster does one have to be. 

oh sure they exist...  knowing it doesn't make it easier to grasp or comprehend.  bah....

*time for next Guinness*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2009 at 07:08
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ did you see her pic... god... she looked evil. 


and she isn't even a nun.  Tongue

It is a sad story. I am guessing that it was an accident and she freaked out and things escalated. At least I am hoping that it was an accident.


so much for the accident theory...Angry  There is a special place in hell for people like  that...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2009 at 13:35
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ did you see her pic... god... she looked evil. 


and she isn't even a nun.  Tongue

It is a sad story. I am guessing that it was an accident and she freaked out and things escalated. At least I am hoping that it was an accident.


so much for the accident theory...Angry  There is a special place in hell for people like  that...


It would be nice if she could share a cell with Scott Peterson. They can compare notes and he could school her on things. I can't believe that she tried the "Someone stole the suitcase the day she went missing" story.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2009 at 18:35
Can't believe this has been going on for over two months and we still have nothing. 
 

ESCONDIDO ---- The family of missing teen Amber Dubois and the police who have investigated her case for two months say they're not giving up hope, even as the flood of tips about Amber's disappearance has slowed to a steady drip.

The 14-year-old Escondido High School freshman vanished Feb. 13 on her way to school. Her parents and friends have described Amber as a bookish girl who loved horses, was a model student and never spoke of running away.

Her family believes Amber was abducted by a stranger. Police say they have no evidence to support either a runaway or abduction theory, and are looking at all possible scenarios.

There have been no significant developments in the case for weeks, causing added despair for the family and frustrating police.

"This has been a very frustrating and perplexing case for our investigators," Escondido police Lt. Bob Benton said. "To have a 14-year-old girl missing is a huge concern for all of us involved ... (Through the investigation) we all know Amber, obviously not as well as the family. She is very dear to us. We'll do anything to find her."

Benton said the department receives at least a half-dozen tips daily. Many are possible sightings and each one is checked out through phone calls, interviews or viewing surveillance video when possible, Benton said.

Police continue to receive bits of Amber's e-mail and online chat history through search warrant requests. Several family members and friends voluntarily turned over computers that Amber used, though none of the history so far has shown anything "out of the ordinary," Benton said.

Accessing Amber's computer history, on both her Yahoo! e-mail account and from several social networking sites, has been slow because much of the data is stored on servers overseas, the lieutenant said.

Benton added that police would like to speak with a young man who appeared to be walking with Amber on the west side of Broadway the morning she disappeared. Amber occasionally walked with classmates on the way to school, though the boy with a dark complexion doesn't match any of those classmates, Benton said.

"That is one of the unsolved questions in the case," he said, noting two neighbors independently said they saw Amber at 7:10 a.m. walking on Broadway near the school's football stadium ---- the last time anyone has reported seeing the girl. One of the neighbors said they saw her with the boy, Benton said.

Maurice Dubois, Amber's father, said the family will continue to organize weekend searches and events to raise awareness about their daughter.

Family and friends have held numerous candlelight vigils, press conferences and fundraisers to keep Amber's story in the news.

"We're not going to lose hope," said Dubois, noting that each passing day becomes more difficult.

Mark Klaas, whose daughter Polly was kidnapped and murdered in 1994 in Northern California, said he knows well what the Dubois family is going through. His daughter was found 65 days after she was abducted.

"(Two months) is closing in on despair," said Klaas, who now heads the KlaasKids Foundation, which works to stop crimes against children. "You start these (searches) with boundless hope that it will be a weekend project."

After weeks go by, your hope "hangs by a thread," he said.

Bill Garcia, a San Diego private investigator who worked for the Dubois family early in the search, said keeping Amber's name prominent is likely the best hope for the family.

The veteran investigator said he remains puzzled by the case, noting some kind of development typically surfaces by now.

To find new clues in a stalled case, he said, police typically go back to the beginning to find "any tidbit" they might have missed ---- something Benton said police are doing.

Volunteers are still needed for weekend searches, Dubois said. He urged off-duty military personnel with search experience to contact the family. Information about getting involved is available at the family's Web site, www.bringamberhome.com.

Amber is described as 5 feet 5 inches tall, 130 pounds with brown hair and blue eyes.

Anyone with information about her disappearance is asked to call Escondido police at (760) 743-8477.

Contact staff writer Chris Nichols at (760) 740-5426 or [email protected].

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2009 at 18:39
oh Brian it must be hell for you guys, never give up though, you have the right attitude.. seems like teens aren't given the attention young children are when disappeared




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