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moshkito
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 10:06 | |||
Hi,
Written as a giggle! Some items that are necessary! With a loud thank you to Pete and Dud!
1. Lots of quiet and silent breaks to send away the "prog'istas"
2. Lots of meandering passages so music experts can say that it's a waste of space! A waste of notes and chords!!!
3. Very slow parts with a singer barely saying anything, so progressive "fashionistas" will think that the words are important. Sex like sounds and the like in the background are a bonus!
4. A very loud guitar that seems to be on its own completely apart from the rest of the music, so wwe think this is more progressive.
5. All other musicians take a cigarette break during the loud guitar part, because you can put a small brick on top of 5 keys on the keyboard, and you can turn on the auto drummer and kick in the synth and bass pads!
6. Even though you can not see it during the CD and the listening, the pictures of the band show a massive light show with so much fog and clouds, that we think this is far out. The colors weren't bad either!
7. Towards the end of the piece, there ALWAYS will be a very berry loud organ playing. However, it must not reach the 20ft size yet! Or it won't be "progressive" ... ie. have a chance to grow!
8. A format that has to resemble a sonata so the mass listenership can enjoy it and not think that there is no music here.
9. The drumming has to be repetitive (with loud snare of course!) so that folks know where the beat of the music is supposed to be, and to make them think that this is REAL music!
10. When the band hits the top ten of progressive lists, it is related to God-like status and everyone else has to go die for it, and be a total bum and idiot and not know anything about music, let alone "progressive". This way, there won't be competition for any hashish hashin out there! Edited by moshkito - March 29 2015 at 10:16 |
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RockHound
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 11:27 | |||
More cowbell!
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Carcharodon
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 11:45 | |||
Lyrics in kobaian
Edited by Carcharodon - March 29 2015 at 11:51 |
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SteveG
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 12:20 | |||
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: March 29 2015 at 16:53 | |||
One carbon atom, six hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom are the elements that improve prog for me.
Preferably in a liquid brewed by Wychwood, Timothy Taylors or similar.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 17:30 | |||
Wakeman did play Mellotron on a number of his solo albums and with Yes. It was Emerson who messed with one once (?) and then left it.
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Guy Guden
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 18:42 | |||
No matter how good the song is, Steven Wilson will re-master it.
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 01:02 | |||
Hello Verslibre , Now you make me feel as dumb as a cucumber as I do not know what Triana and Bloque means? However I am most curious really in knowing this now hugs
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 01:08 | |||
True but unlike many he does not push the sound into compression like many others, infact he refused to do that on KG in the court of crimson king, after this my adorable funny too grumpy Robert Fripp agreed and even gained more respect for him
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 01:15 | |||
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26171 |
Posted: March 30 2015 at 01:20 | |||
It was entirely an ironic comment Even Rick Wakeman said the Mellotron was a 'cheat' although he continued to use it. I guess for Rick it was a cheap and easy way to create a choir before he had enough money to do it properly.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 02:30 | |||
Hi, Katita, I thought you preferred zucchini. Bloque and Triana are both Spanish progressive rock bands. "Poemas de Soledad / Alquimista Soy" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JElEFwnGvJA "!Ya esta bien! / Necesito" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pT5LChlw2Y
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SteveG
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 11:39 | |||
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 11:42 | |||
ha! Thanks Verslibre, going to look and listen to both bands now ha! Thank you very much mhwoaahhxxxx hugs
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 11:51 | |||
Cooee! Having a mellotron/novatron is not necessary as a requirement to be prog, too many factors are at play here ok now this band at the time with David Byron and Ken Hensley on Hammond organ was prog and they were so good uriah heep - july morning 1972 live - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRrGNygjzs&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwMnzu3X4ADg_4lK7g75AIDM&index=3
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verslibre
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 13:17 | |||
Rick also used it on TFTO, but the 'Tron appears with reasonable frequency on a number of his solo albums, including the more recent Retro and Retro 2 (which I like a lot). Quick reference: http://www.planetmellotron.com/revwakeman.htm
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verslibre
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 13:23 | |||
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SteveG
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 13:29 | |||
^Good posts, guys (and gal). I was referring to early in Wakeman's career, especially his Strawbs' era, but I'm just splitting hairs. I have to get back to work now, so cheers to all!
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verslibre
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 14:15 | |||
Sorry, I overlooked that. AFAIK, Rick didn't actually have a 'Tron till he joined Yes.
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Kati
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Posted: March 30 2015 at 14:21 | |||
I think Wakeman is the coolest musician who did whatever he wanted, when he felt like it he left YES to do other projects and bugger about, just the same when he decided to come back, he was most welcome back too
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