3rd Rd. Classics: Pawn Hearts v. Mirage |
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MFP
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 11:59 | ||
Seconded
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LearsFool
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 12:10 | ||
Generator, even though they had better albums.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 13:52 | ||
Van Damme Generator!!!
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams |
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Meltdowner
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 13:54 | ||
^ ... bah...
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 14:17 | ||
Mirage - Gud album that i enjoy
Pawn Hearts - All-time favourite |
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 14:55 | ||
bah.....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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zravkapt
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:03 | ||
All is forgiven. Thank you people.
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Moogtron III
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:05 | ||
Bah indeed... |
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:06 | ||
I thought you left |
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GKR
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:07 | ||
Micky, you do know that the "bah" is a common expression of the "Gaucho" (natural from the state I live here in Brazil)?
So I kind feel in home in this website with your ways By the way, for you americans understand, this is a Gaucho. Edited by GKR - August 09 2015 at 15:07 |
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- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:10 | ||
I pretty much agree but love both and find young Peter Hammill's pretentious but honest existentialism charming and and genuinely moving (a couple of years later his writing matured considerably and by 74-75 became one of progs greatest lyricists imo).
This part I don't get. I'm no looney but the progression in this epic is perfection to my ears. An amazing trip from start to finish and it all makes sense. The most spot on thing Julian Cope has ever written: ...“A Plague of Lighthouse keepers” drifts in and out of control for 23-minutes of standing-on-the-verge-of-getting-it-on-ness, occasionally unleashing ridiculous stentorian extremes, then backing right off into passages of near meditational drift. It should also be noted that this lot use Mellotrons 400 and Mark 2 like they SHOULD be used. Sound FX, train choogles, stampeding elephants, bain’t nowt too gimmicky for our boys. If it was guaranteed to invoke the ancient Gods, then they’d even steep the ARP synthesizer in tea. PAWN HEARTS is a masterpiece in the old-fashioned sense of the word, that is: it is a musical blueprint on which to build in the future and has as sensibly structured an anti-structure as you could wish for. It is in turns beautiful, ridiculous, foul, overwhelming, irritating, mutating and magnificent... |
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:19 | ||
oh yeah! I didn't know that ..provincial putz that I am...but you had posted an explanation earlier. |
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micky
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:24 | ||
I always did mean to review that album to make my thoughts and feelings on it more clear. Needless to say I do share John McFerrins thoughts on it. Scary stuff... never met the guy.. but almost scary how much I agree with many of his observations. Like ... here is someone who is expressing exactly what I feel.. makes reviewing actually more difficult. Much like my wife. Think very much the same about a great many things musicially. People like him.. and Raff are so much better with words..I'd be afraid of aping their review to do mine. so here is what he said.. pretty much sums up how I feel about the epic and the album http://www.johnmcferrinmusicreviews.org/vdgg.htm#pawnhearts |
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GKR
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 22 2013 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1376 |
Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:26 | ||
"Peter Hammill's pretentious but honest existentialism" - really really existencialism? Like, with influences of Sartre and stuff?
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LearsFool
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:31 | ||
Probably not by any direct influence at all - all I've ever heard is that Hammill's love for Heinlein and Philip K. Dick led to him assimilating some of their philosophical themes into his lyrics.
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GKR
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:34 | ||
Hummmm...
No less interesting, anyway. |
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Saperlipopette!
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 10056 |
Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:34 | ||
I don't know what writers Peter Hammill was into back then but existentialist thoughts or mindset doesn't have to be influenced by its great thinkers to be existential. We're all allowed to think that way, even analphabets.
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GKR
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:39 | ||
Of course we are allowed, and we are not oblige to read anyone. But because this guys back in the seventies were kinda nerds and existencialism (in the academic way) were fairly well know... I just tried to investigate a little. |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:45 | ||
^Sure. Didn't intend to come across as rude or anything. Just meant mankind have asked existential questions long before and after the ism.
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GKR
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Posted: August 09 2015 at 15:48 | ||
Nice.
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