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EddieRUKiddingVarese 
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 Posted: September 28 2016 at 18:56 |
I'm a Zappa fan so excuse me but my Wife likes the Moody Blues and we have all their albums, including most of the solo stuff and I have one question- why does it all sounds the same.............?
its like torture........................... granted, I can listen to some of the earlier stuff but ............... I have no choice..... help
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Posted: September 28 2016 at 19:13 |
 EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
I'm a Zappa fan so excuse me but my Wife likes the Moody Blues and we have all their albums, including most of the solo stuff and I have one question- why does it all sounds the same.............?
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Why does a lot of Genesis sounds the same too? Formulas work.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: September 28 2016 at 19:23 |
aglasshouse wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
I'm a Zappa fan so excuse me but my Wife likes the Moody Blues and we have all their albums, including most of the solo stuff and I have one question- why does it all sounds the same.............?
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Why does a lot of Genesis sounds the same too? Formulas work. |
think you've got it - on a good think eh!
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 00:19 |
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They have 4 vocalists and 5 writers. How can it possibly all sound the same?
Does a rocksong like Singer in a Rock n Roll Band and a ballad like Nights in White Satin sound the same to you?
Or am I just feeding a troll here?
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 00:34 |
Kingsnake wrote:
They have 4 vocalists and 5 writers. How can it possibly all sound the same?
Does a rocksong like Singer in a Rock n Roll Band and a ballad like Nights in White Satin sound the same to you?
Or am I just feeding a troll here? |
Yep, sound the same= same instrumentation, same production, same sound!
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 01:23 |
I guess I'm getting the jist here. 'sounding' the same. Just like all Jazz sounds the same and all heavy metal sounds the same  
Edited by Kingsnake - September 29 2016 at 01:24
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 01:26 |
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 01:37 |
But to quit the joking, I think there's a distinct difference between the different eras of the Moodies.
In the first album they were a R&B band. Totally different sound and approach (different vocalists aswell)
On the 'seven' albums they sound more or less the same. Heavy orchestrated, romantic psychedelic pop/rock, with either use of orchestra or mellotron. These 'seven' albums are all produced by Tony Clarke (you might say, he was the sixth Moodie) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clarke_(record_producer) He also produced the Blue Jays album, wich has (indeed) the same sound and approach as any Moody Blues album. And of course the first solo albums by Hayward and Lodge.
On the transitional album Octave they sound bland and dull. Standard keyboard sounds, no mellotron, no lush arrangments. Kinda middle-of-the road pop. Although it's also produced by Clarke, it has a different sound.
On the two major 80's albums (Long Distance Voyager and Present) they sound more like Barclay James Harvest and ELO. Because of Pip Williams (producer) and Patrick Moraz (synthesizer).
On the following albums they sound more like the Bee Gees. Drumcomputers, bass-sequencers, no more flute, danceable compositions, etc.
I don't know wich albums you have listened. But you're kind of right, that the Moodies stuck to a particular sound in their career. Although they changed 'sounds' over the years.
Of course there are the voices of Hayward and Lodge that has always played a major role in the sound of the band.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 01:45 |
Couldn't agree with you more- have most of their albums- all up to Long Distance Voyager and some some after including Present and a lot of the solo stuff including BlueJays and other Justin stuff- Wife loves them........
Me I'm a Zappa fan...........
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 01:57 |
Can you only be fan of one artist?
I like fusion stuff and weird stuff and experimental music. Also hugely enthousiastic about thrash- and deathmetal.
But I also love sentimental, nostalgic music like Al Stewart, Moody Blues and Neil Diamond.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 02:13 |
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Just not Moody Blues and Genesis, Fan of most else Particularly Zappa of course and King Crimson
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 04:08 |
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John Lodge. His falsetto vocals are mostly annoying.
His first solo album - Natural Avenue - has a beaut Roger Dean artwork - is it even remotely Prog - NO !! Couldn't be any more Pop-Rock schlock. Disappointing !!
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 04:09 |
So, the more experimental stuff.
To return the favor: I tried, and I tried and I tried, but there isn't a single Zappa album I can really, fully enjoy.
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 04:10 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
John Lodge. His falsetto vocals are mostly annoying.
His first solo album - Natural Avenue - has a beaut Roger Dean artwork - is it even remotely Prog - NO !! Couldn't be any more Pop-Rock schlock. Disappointing !! |
Yeah, Hayward always my favorite, and the more romantic/nostalgic Ray Thomas.
Moody Blues were always the sum of the parts. Because the songs Lodge wrote for the band, weren't always bad. Although I prefer the Hayward-songs.
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Posted: September 29 2016 at 04:21 |
Kingsnake wrote:
So, the more experimental stuff.
To return the favor: I tried, and I tried and I tried, but there isn't a single Zappa album I can really, fully enjoy. |
As long as you tried, thats all cool. 
Wife doesn't like Zappa at all. We have a house rules I don't play Zappa - where she can hear it and she does not play Celine Dion................ The arch Enemy of all good music lovers 
Edited by EddieRUKiddingVarese - September 29 2016 at 04:25
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Posted: September 30 2016 at 02:25 |
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Yep - Lodge can write great tunes no doubt, ha is a very competent bassist too, but his falsetto vocal is lame........
The problem here is - he sports the classy P-Bass 'bottom-end with boggy tone' sound. His playing is quite understated whilst he plays some quite complex bass-lines along with the respective songs. These guys played exquisitely but without the 'pomp and flash' that the future Prog-bands displayed.
I don't know why, but when I listen to Send Me No Wine, John's bass reminds me of what Geddy Lee plays in Xanadu.
........just those rolling scales....
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Posted: October 01 2016 at 14:46 |
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As is the case with the best threads on the site, this one has led me to start re-exploring this great band's back catalogue. Seventh Sojourn is on as I write this post, which I must get around to review (actually, I must get around to reviewing again, full stop), a lovely understated gem of an album.
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Posted: October 01 2016 at 15:21 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Just not Moody Blues and Genesis, Fan of most else Particularly Zappa of course and King Crimson |
And yet here you are on a Moodys appreciation thread with nothing important to say.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: October 01 2016 at 15:51 |
Sorry Timothy I seem to have updet you, somehow..............................
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Posted: October 01 2016 at 16:29 |
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I would have to say my favorites are Days of Future Past, On a Threshold of a Dream, In Search of a Lost Chord and Seventh Sojourn. Having seen them several times back in the day, I would also say they put on great concerts. I've seen them twice featuring symphonies and the shows were unforgettable.
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