Do believe that females are progressive musicians?

I haven't seen the locked thread, so I cannot comment. I do know, though, that admin rarely do this without good reason.

The OP has, reasonably, been asked to place a link to the YouTube channel. We can then have a decent conversation about the merits, or otherwise, of the OP's music and tastes. If this is not done, then I would tend to the opinion that this is not what it seems, and also lock this thread and ban the OP for trolling, sorry.

BTW, to avoid all doubt in the matter, I love women, whether in a band, in the workplace, in the home, anywhere. Far nicer than all those horrible, sweaty, blokes............

Welcome to the site. I hope you realise that you are barking up the wrong tree. I can't remember the last time we had one of those 'men are superior to women' kind of fellas on here...and if we do come across them we mock them and throw them in the pillory for all to see.
The occasional women who do make music inside the prog sphere are welcomed here in the same way men are. It's just music. Loads of members on here who listen to music either made or contributed by women.
As a matter of fact I am putting on some Diamanda Galas right this minute.

Then again, as Laz mentioned, this whole two-thread crusade against something the OP thinks she can infer by some old thread where supposedly old timey male bigots acted all midieval, smells like trolling and/or like the OP has got a score to settle. Methinks she'd be better off actually locating the proper arena/person before she makes her accusations.
I certainly can't indentify anyone member that correlates with what she's saying.

Two words.

1. Rachel

2. Flowers

Possibly as fine a musician as exists upon the face of the planet right now.

Mortte wrote: I think you Marissa started very important discussion. I started also same kind of, but didn´t manage put my words right way. I think the main point in that was, why still in 2000 there are so little women in prog? Yes, world have gone forward in this male/female thing, but I think it´s still men´s world. What proves is that "me too"-campaign. I have heard many actors, musicians that are female said, it´s still very common if you try to go forward in your career "you have to please so certain producers (that are men)". I think also it´s very naive to say "nobody in this forum doesn´t want to ban you". I think here are quite much people round the world and really all the men don´t think like I think. In Finland for example certain way thinking female politics get the most of the rubbish through the internet (well quite often also men who are feminists). And the reactions "don´t claim, just quietly do your thing" just shows that this is important issue the world really shouldn´t quiet. And if somebody´s going to attack against me, I am not answering anymore, I think I have said what I have to say.

On the last Purson album, composer Rosalie Cunningham played most of the instruments herself.  This album was very well received, not only here, but at other prog sites as well.

I think there's more to this story than the OP is letting us in on...

I believe that the lady was trying to elicit a response from the male PA members. And she succeeded!

octopus-4 wrote: She hasn’t posted any link to her music. She might be a troll

Edited by someone_else - December 28 2017 at 10:06

I really wish there more were female members here -- I've collaborated on more creative projects with women than men.

Anyway, I love the music of plenty of women. Just yesterday I listened to music of Vashti Bunyan and Linda Perhacs (I adore progressive folk music) and Kate Bush is a favourite of many here, including me. And in the last week I've played Aranis and Charming Hostess, both of which have female and male musicians. I am aware of more female vocalists than musicians, and more female musicians than composers, it's true.

Anyone who uploads original videos to youtube needs a thick skin and need to not develop any persecution complex -- there will be criticism both constructive and otherwise. Take it in stride. Get too defensive or offensive, and expect that people will be offensive. An antagonistic attitude makes it look like one has a chip on one's shoulder and people are likely to be less sympathetic and tolerant. I'm sorry of you've had really bad experiences.

Incidentally, by looking up you name I checked out your music on youtube and enjoyed it, but if I didn't, then it wouldn't be because of your sex. I'm often appalled by what people say in places such as Youtube and Twitter. I think a s general rule people should think, if one is posting something that one wouldn't be willing to say to a person's face they should think twice before saying it online.

In these days of self-produced music, there is more opportunity to create music. I personally have known many women who play instruments (mostly classical music), and if women want to learn to play, create bands, and release music then they can (of course there are more fredoms in some societies than others). If people wish to purchase it or attend concerts, that's another matter. Even IF, and I don't believe this to be the case, no men would give them the time of day, there's an opportunity with fifty percent of the human population (at least depending upon the society one lives in).

Incidentally, we have other female musicians at PA despite women being the minority here -- while it seems that not so many women are into prog as men, and Prog is male heavy, maybe that will change over time. Rock, in general, has something of a machismo image, but Progressive Rock I rather think tends to appeal to more sensitive people (not classifying women as "sensitive" in case my point is missed in the context of my ramblings). I also find Progressive Rock fans generally tolerant and appreciate diversity (I mean, we accept lots of styles of music thrown into Prog and enjoy such music from around the world with very diverse influences).

It is a shame that this wasn't approached in a different manner. Had a friendly newbie introduction without assumptions been posted, I expect there would have been a very warm welcome. In this thread I think people have been quite understanding and considerate.

On another, another note, I have seen sexist comments here now and again, but such stuff has commonly not been tolerated.

While you music is easy to find without links, maybe try posting some of your music and ask for honest feedback. We have a policy here to be considerate of our fellow members (avoid sniping, trolling, personal attacks), but that doesn't mean that people can't be critical (and constructive criticism can be really helpful). EDIT: multi-taking so hadn't seen that your music has been linked to. I also got a Kate Bush vibe from it.

Welcome to PA, and maybe we can put any negativity behind us (I don't think people here are generally the types to bear grudges so don't worry if you feel we may have got off on the wrong foot). I would like to hear more details of your story as it does seem, as has been said, there's more going on here than is obvious and spelled-out.

Edited by Logan - December 28 2017 at 10:28