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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.

exactly 5.75% of the music on this site is real prog rock. After that you have the fake prog represented by 80's King Crimson and Peter Gabriel entire solo career plus the AOR crap that no one cares about and the weird stuff that strange human like persons think is important.

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who said that AOR is real prog? Confused

what's a "strange human like person"? Confused
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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.

exactly 5.75% of the music on this site is real prog rock. After that you have the fake prog represented by 80's King Crimson and Peter Gabriel entire solo career plus the AOR crap that no one cares about and the weird stuff that strange human like persons think is important.

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Originally posted by progROCKS123 progROCKS123 wrote:

even in the 1980s rush was still a prog band Smile

I agree but maybe not Presto. Anything in the 80s before it though. 
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I actually don't disagree with the 2112 to MP opinion (although is side two of 2112 really prog?) but my personal (subjective) defintion of prog stretches a bit beyond MP.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

TBH I dislike it (to put tit gently) when anyone puts words like "real" or 'true" in front of genres, i.e. "true metal" and 'true prog" and so on. Maybe I'm not getting something here... oh well... LOL

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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.


Silly me, I've just noticed the "real prog rock" in the title. As opposed to  false or fake prog rock everywhere, right? 
TBH I dislike it (to put tit gently) when anyone puts words like "real" or 'true" in front of genres, i.e. "true metal" and 'true prog" and so on. Maybe I'm not getting something here... oh well... LOL


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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.


I second everything you wrote.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

<font size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">"What is Prog?"


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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Rush and Fly by Night aren't prog, not in the slightest. But they don't have to be.

By-Tor and the Snow Dog isn't prog?

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

"What is Prog?"

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Originally posted by Zeph Zeph wrote:

You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.

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You can’t even agree on the definition of “prog”, which makes it difficult to answer the question. Music is not black and white where every single album can be deemed either prog or not. It’s all a mix of inspirations and talent.

I’m also amused at the topic title, asking for “real prog”. Certainly prog police work.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Rush and Fly by Night aren't prog, not in the slightest. But they don't have to be.

By-Tor and the Snow Dog isn't prog?

About as prog as Triumph's "Blinding Light Show/Moonchild" (8:43) and "The City" (9:20).

That makes those songs a little bit prog, at least to me.

I love both bands, though they each have at least one album I can't listen to all the way through. Too bad Trumph's flame went out so early.
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The correct answer, if you aren't the Prog Police, are the ones you choose.
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Rush and Fly by Night aren't prog, not in the slightest. But they don't have to be.

By-Tor and the Snow Dog isn't prog?

About as prog as Triumph's "Blinding Light Show/Moonchild" (8:43) and "The City" (9:20).

That makes those songs a little bit prog, at least to me. 
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Rush and Fly by Night aren't prog, not in the slightest. But they don't have to be.

By-Tor and the Snow Dog isn't prog?

About as prog as Triumph's "Blinding Light Show/Moonchild" (8:43) and "The City" (9:20).
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None are prog, nevertheless lot are top !
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Rush and Fly by Night aren't prog, not in the slightest. But they don't have to be.

By-Tor and the Snow Dog isn't prog?
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...           Why are most of their albums progressive? Because after Neil Peart joined, they were a band that never shied away from complexity and intricacy in their music. 
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It's much easier to do, when you have a drummer that can do a heck of a lot more than just keeping time ... they work on making sure they can augment the moments in the music, and that can not be done when the high schoolish drummer can only do the same beat and timing. That's about 50% of all the "progressive" bands, btw, when everything is "progressive" and the drumming is elementary, and sophomoric!

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