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Sex Pistols (1 album)
Television (3 albums)
Syd Barrett (2 Albums)
Joy Division (2 albums)
Fire Engines (1 album)
Thunderclap Newman (1 album)
Hermann Szobel (1 album) Austrian pianist and composer, recorded when he was just 18 years old
The United States of America (1 album)
Maxophone (2 albums)
Nick Drake (3 albums)
Mike Taylor (2 albums) English jazz pianist and composer
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Syd Barrett (2 Albums)



I don't wanna split hairs, but I think Pink Floyd was the actual influence, as opposed to his solo stuff, but its just an opinion; we can't accurately gauge this. I think even after Pipers, their future acceleration (and influence) helped Syd, and so did Pink Floyd (maybe out of guilt?). Even the few music fans I know (not here) seem to like the idea of Syd; the LSD, mental breakdown, without knowing the music. I liked "Dominoes" (w/ David Gilmour on drums). It was nice that Syd wanted Roger and David to produce his first one, despite the awkward break-up.


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Harmonium had an enourmous impact on the culture of Québec with their 3 albums released in the mid-seventies (74-76).

Une légende musicale and a social phenomenon that still resonates 45 years later.

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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Sex Pistols (1 album)
Television (3 albums)
Syd Barrett (2 Albums)
Joy Division (2 albums)
Fire Engines (1 album)
Thunderclap Newman (1 album)
Hermann Szobel (1 album) Austrian pianist and composer, recorded when he was just 18 years old
The United States of America (1 album)
Maxophone (2 albums)
Nick Drake (3 albums)
Mike Taylor (2 albums) English jazz pianist and composer

I don't think I can argue #1.

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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Syd Barrett (2 Albums)



I don't wanna split hairs, but I think Pink Floyd was the actual influence, as opposed to his solo stuff, but its just an opinion; we can't accurately gauge this. I think even after Pipers, their future acceleration (and influence) helped Syd, and so did Pink Floyd (maybe out of guilt?). Even the few music fans I know (not here) seem to like the idea of Syd; the LSD, mental breakdown, without knowing the music. I liked "Dominoes" (w/ David Gilmour on drums). It was nice that Syd wanted Roger and David to produce his first one, despite the awkward break-up.


Floyd post Syd are clearly a massive influence on thousands of artists, so no argument from me there. I've included 'Syd post Floyd' due to his enduring influence as a songwriter, which you can hear in the work of Ray Davies, Pete Townshend, Kevin Ayers, Marc Bolan, Robert Smith, Robin Hitchcock, Oasis, Jesus & Mary Chain, Wire, Julian Cope, Bowie, Daevid Allen, Damned, Zombies, Blur, Andy Partridge (Dukes of Stratosphear), Banshees, the list goes on.....
I agree that there's a stubborn misunderstanding at the heart of the Syd cult: As if mind altering substances can mine talent that never existed in the first place and that madness is somehow glamorous: that external chemicals beget a muse that can be coaxed into taking possession of your soul for benign purposes. You cannot score talent and the sobering reality is that thousands of (surviving) musicians have testified that drugs don't facilitate the creative process but merely provide a surrogate for a mundane reality the user cannot handle.
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Neu! (3 albums that were really variations on just the 1)
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Notorious B.I.G. (2 albums while alive)
Silver Apples (2 albums prior to their 30 year hiatus)
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Cream. I am surprised no-one mentioned them yet


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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Sex Pistols (1 album)
Television (3 albums)
Syd Barrett (2 Albums)
Joy Division (2 albums)
Fire Engines (1 album)
Thunderclap Newman (1 album)
Hermann Szobel (1 album) Austrian pianist and composer, recorded when he was just 18 years old
The United States of America (1 album)
Maxophone (2 albums)
Nick Drake (3 albums)
Mike Taylor (2 albums) English jazz pianist and composer

Nice listing ... 
Sex Pimples .... media craze. Not music! (Guy Guden's version was much better!)

Syd Barrett ... a bunch of wanna be musicians, trying to turn Syd's words into a regular blues/rock song and the idea failed and flopped, and Syd looked worse and sick! Saddest thing ... what PF had done earlier to color his songs, was gone, lost and forgotten forever! Nothing like putting someone in a coffin before they were dead!

Thunderclap Newman ... I always thought that this guy was much more talented than he was given credit for ... but being a sort of protege for some other famous people, always means ... you're nothing without us! I always loved the one song he is best known for, and sadly, how it is remembered in THE MAGIC CHRISTIAN ... still a great song!

Nick Drake ... the one folk/rocker that no one knows or has heard ... I think (have to listen to it again ... it's been 30 years!) that he was quite psych in those days, and if I am not silly, that he was a sort of reincarnation of Syd ... but the fame side never really took off and I don't think people took his work seriously at all ... he was really nice to listen to and appreciate ... but the lyrics will throw off these "pop-musak'rs" around here! Compared to Syd, he was not as theatrical and a bit more musical ... Syd's phrasing was about the words and the story telling, not the singing, and this is huge in a lot of folks way of doing their thing ... I think that Nick might have been taken more seriously if he actually believed and felt like Syd did in his own material ... you and I fell for those stories so fast ... you could not help falling for them! Nick's words and singing, was not as clear and open a story to take you away, and I think that made him a bit more under the radar ... and then a Peter Hammill like person shows up and he is all about the words and his feelings, and forget singing ... notes are for the folks that can't sing!


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Henry Cow, Hatfield & the North
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Velvet Underground
Eric Dolphy
MC5
Duane Allman

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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

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That whole English scene that got its (apparent) first cry with things like THIRD EAR BAND, LOL COXHILL and many others, all deserve a nod ... they were totally different and out there, and I am not sure that anyone thought it meant anything ... except just a bunch of weirdo's.

At least in the case of TEB, it made sense that they were (supposedly) playing the music exactly the same as it was like 400 years ago, when no one knew anything about music, and songs were not an issue, and the whole thing lived for a few moments only ... and of course, us, a rock audience, hearing this stuff would go ... wtf is that supposed to be?

And that scene continued past Dagmar and many others ... and they all did some very nice and far out things ... and it's just a shame that "progressive" does not have an ear for different feelings in music, with different instruments ... and no blue guitars or fancy organ synthesizers! Tongue
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Nick Drake, Joy Division & Third Ear Band are very good shout outs.

How about Comus? Genre defining.

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Velvet Underground
The Smiths
New York Dolls
The Sex Pistols
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The Crszy World of Arthur Brown - Fire, though stil active, it took him one song to become a legend and hes sort of regarded as a on chit wonder
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doh... BLUE f**kING CHEER...  in fact..  that is a thread win there for the Big Mick for the massive influence they had on a soon to come genre. .and pretty much all the 1000's of groups that played it.
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