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Jethro Tull vs. King Crimson
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Crimson, unless there is an ample amount of beer, then Tull.
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Dull beats obtuse in my books

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I could live with just one Tull album if it comes to it (TAAB) while even Crimson's later period beats most of Tull for me. Easy vote for Crimson.
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Both winner in two different worlds
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Tull for sure. I love KC, but Tull for sure.
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I voted for Tull but feel a little guilty as I cant really say there's any clear winner imho. 
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Hard to say. Back in the day I would lean to Tull, but now I lean a bit more towards Crimso.
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King Crimson. I've been getting really into them lately and they're surprisingly good. I do like Thick as a Brick a lot though.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Dull beats obtuse in my books

Shakespeare is obtuse until you get it and early Tull isn't Dull although the last couple of albums of Ian Anderson without Martin Barre qualifies in that area.
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STATS
According to faulty last.fm stats, these two are my number 1 & 2 most listened artists since September 2008. But I stopped caring about last.fm and scrobbling around ~2012, so stats are definitely off, picking up less than half of music I listen to. Even then, Jethro outnumbers KC by 36% (playcount), so they have advantage. Jethro Tull

PEAK
Jethro Tull's peak albums (Thick as a Brick, Aqualung, Songs from the Wood) are flawless and I always look forward to hear them. King Crimson peak albums (Lizard, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Red, perhaps the debut) aren't frequent listens because they require full attention, but once I'm tuned in... let's just say that King Crimson influenced as much as ANY music, it really was a life-changing experience for my adolescent mind. I have to give them a nod... Small advantage, King Crimson

PRIME
I admit, my definition for "prime" favors King Crimson. It just so happens that Fripp dished out most of the goodies in a relatively short span (1969-74), while Anderson & co. were terrific for more than a decade. To make it somewhat fair, let's make Jethro Tull's prime 1970-75 (from Benefit to Minstrel in the Gallery).
Across seven consecutive albums in their respective primes, King Crimson looks better, but this category is tailor-made to their strengths. King Crimson

EXTENDED PRIME
King Crimson had admittedly good run between 1981-84, the "colorful" era, three decent albums (Discipline is rather great). So they released 10 noteworthy albums (1969-84 combined).
Jethro Tull had 16 albums in that time span and only the last one is garbage. In other words, this is 15 decent-to-awesome releases. No band on this site can rival Jethro Tull's consistency between Stand Up and Stormwatch, and it's not like they were done in 1979. If you're the lucky one and you left Jethro Tull "for later", you're in for one hell of a ride. Jethro Tull in a landslide

CAREER
In later years, King Crimson came back with quite strong THRAK and The Power to Believe. There was also a plethora of ProjeKcts and live recordings in 90s & 00s, but I didn't bother to revisit any of them in years. I'm still looking ahead for new studio material because King Crimson is much tighter and more 'serious' unit in 2019.
Jethro Tull hit rock bottom twice in their career (Under Wraps and Catfish Rising), but they also had noteworthy recordings post-1985, especially Roots to Branches and infinitely cute Christmas Album. They were also touring every single year up to 2012! It has to account for something. As I said, King Crimson is closing the gap nowadays, current lineup is both inspired and explosive.
I'm leaning to give Jethro Tull a nod here. In my book, JT had 17 albums worth 3 stars on progarchives. KC's catalogue is a bit leaner, I can only count 11-12 albums deserving that grade. Lower rated efforts don't move a needle for me. Small advantage, Jethro Tull

SUMMARY
It's definitely "apples to oranges" comparison. I can't deny King Crimson's unique impact on my musical taste. On a good day, Robert Fripp and his crew can rival anything in the prog world. It must be said that KC demands listener's full attention - or at least that's my approach. You can't give Formentera Lady a proper listen in public transportation, and singing Starless by the fire is blasphemy.
Jethro Tull is much more "portable". There are heaps of songs you can enjoy in your daily routine, be it shopping, driving from work or cooking dinner... and they also have these epic compositions requiring more contemplative mood, i.e. Baker St Muse, Heavy Horses or My God. There is plenty to choose from.

Versatility and broad catalogue are Jethro Tull's calling card, so I choose them today. Ask again in a few months.
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It’s odd that sftw gets talked about even though horses is better. 1979 is Tulls best year though.
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

It’s odd that sftw gets talked about even though horses is better. 1979 is Tulls best year though.


"Better" is subjective if there is a small gap. "Better" becomes objective if you compare, say, "From Genesis to Revelation" to "Foxtrot".
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Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by dr prog dr prog wrote:

It’s odd that sftw gets talked about even though horses is better. 1979 is Tulls best year though.


"Better" is subjective if there is a small gap. "Better" becomes objective if you compare, say, "From Genesis to Revelation" to "Foxtrot".



Horses has more balls. Both remixes sound bloody good though. Horses also has an extra ep worth of goodies too and Songs has an extra gem called Old aces. I’d give 77 over 4 stars, 78 about 4.5 stars. 79 is 5 stars. Remix is awesome
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Do you have all their anniversary remixes? I only got Songs from the Wood, but I'm interested in getting others, if they're worth. Especially curious about MITG, APP and TAAB live material...
Is Stormwatch 2019 that great release?
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I need to be in a special mood for King Crimson and when I am in that mood I really enjoy it, with Tull I really enjoy it no matter what mood I'm in. 
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I love Jethro Tull

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Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Do you have all their anniversary remixes? I only got Songs from the Wood, but I'm interested in getting others, if they're worth. Especially curious about MITG, APP and TAAB live material...
Is Stormwatch 2019 that great release?


Yeah got all of them. I’ll describe Some for now

Stormwatch is a strong double album. Remix has made me a new fan of broadford, ghosts and sporran which I didn’t take enough notice of before. Loving them. Sporran is longer now too. Always loved North Sea, Ringill, Stitch and a few others but they all sound even better now. Somethings on the move sounds awesome now with its vocal effects. Orion has become a 9 minute epic which contains Martins best moment of his career imo. Love the intro. There’s a busy prog gem called urban apocalypse which reminds me of Gentle Giant in bits. Love early version of Dark Ages too. Every song sounds better. 5 star release for sure.

Horses and Songs are the best sounding remixes. Wilson did a great job. Some strong new tracks in Old aces, Living in hard times 1 and 2 and others. A good 30 extra minutes of unrepeated Tull on horses. 4.5 stars for both

Aqualung has a double album worth of of goodies with a great remixed sound. Add some fine quad and an early version of 2-3 songs also. 4.5 star

Thick is still 4.5 star. Not much more to say

Passion sounds better than ever. Some new sounds and a strong extra minute. Chateau tapes sound a lot better. Left right and Audition are very much classic Tull. A good 30 extra minutes of unrepeated Tull in there. 4.5 star

Warchild was meant to be 3 albums. Poppy soundtrack for the critics, an orchestral score and a Tull album of short proggy tunes. We have all 3. This is probably the most rewarding remix. Plenty of cool extras which make up for 3-4 too many pop songs on the original album. 4.5 stars

I’ll do the other albums later lol
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