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dr wu23
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KC......over Tull....though I am a Tull fan.
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With all due respect, mostly all the big Prog bands "beat" King Crimson in influence and music even the lesser known bands do.
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Jethro Tull for me. I like all of the Jethro Tull albums I've heard so far, but I only like the first album by King Crimson.
Edited by Psychedelic Paul - December 09 2019 at 17:33 |
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Great writeup! Got me thinking now, esp that xmas is behind the corner. Any chances of getting new copies / rereleases, or you think it was just a one time project? Also, which live video material did you like the most |
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dr prog
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I think all the 40th stuff is basically sold out. The first 12 albums have been done. Benefit only came out in a small pack though. They started with Benefit 40th, then Aqualung big box the next year. Thick was the first to come out in book format and they continued that format since with the 72-79 albums while doing 50th book formats of 68-69 albums and a 45th book format of Aqualung. So I think benefits will have to get a 50th in that format and I feel they’ll continue the 50th releases as they were pretty popular the first time around. A and Broadsword should get 40th books too. The live stuff is fairly good. The Stormwatch live stuff is up there with bursting out and Carnegie hall |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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King Crimson, hands down.
Apart from Thick as a Brick, I'm not a Tull fan. |
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Jethro Tull, no contest. The only KC albums I really love are Court and Red. JT, by comparison, had like a great album every year from Stand Up through Heavy Horses. Something about JT's music you really can't get anywhere else...
One day I will give Stormwatch another try...
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dr prog
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Kind of weird Tull are losing. They have quality remix sets in 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 77, 78 and 79 at the very least. Tonnes of great non album tracks. Crimson didn’t even exist between 75 and 79 lol. I’d still pick Tull over crimson in the 69-74 era but I rate them just as good in the 77-82 era. I’d say they have twice as many quality tunes than crimson. As for Stormwatch, the remix is basically a classic double album. Heaps of quality tunes. Go get the remix sets. It’s Tulls best year. The remix sets are bloody excellent. The existing stuff sounds even better and the tonnes of extras are awesome. Tull actually have 25 albums worth of unrepeated studio songs from 1968-84. That’s an extra 10 albums worth of songs in addition to the first 15 albums. Of my fave 100 Tull songs I’d say half would be non album tracks. Evenly spread over the top 100 Edited by dr prog - December 17 2019 at 01:22 |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Crimso', everyone!
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I like both bands about equally(and so refuse to pick one over the other) so no vote. However, I will say this:
As an over all band I prefer Jethro Tull. As a purely prog rock band I pick King Crimson. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 17 2019 at 11:05 |
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Not really...PA is a Prog site. With KC, every album is prog; with Tull many albums are prog but many albums are not. So that is why KC poll more on this site; because they have been consistently prog from their inception.
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I consider most 70s Tull prog based. They had some pop tunes in the mid 70s but 70-73 and 77-80 were mainly releases of prog based heavy folk rock. They would have released more prog in the mid 70s but went for a different approach with those albums. But there’s plenty of extra tracks from that mid 70s era that are prog based. We now have a great mix from the remixes. Basically 17 albums worth in the 70s. A dozen worth of prog based stuff, 3 worth of pop and 2 worth of sub par tracks |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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I'm too lazy to cherry pick this and that. Everything Crimson has done is worth taking seriously and they didn't do a Christmas album although can you imagine what it would have been if they had. Just think of Fripp wearing a fluffy Santa hat... so him.
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Really love Jethro but it´s again KC.
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Crimson. There is something special about a King Crimson record.
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Crimson - really not a contest. Tull are ok, but Crimson.......
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Would have been an album full of this, no doubt:
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Jethro Tull.
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With all due respect, that's the ultimate in revisionism. Genesis leaned heavily on ITCOTCK to make Trespass and you're claiming KC is the least influential of the big prog rock bands?
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