Roger Waters Wacked

Frenetic Zetetic wrote: iluvmarillion wrote: Really don't like this revisionism going on with Roger Waters regarding who wrote what on Comfortably Numb. It's entirely between Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour and has nothing to do with Pink Floyd fans like myself who don't want to know. His feud has nothing to do with us. I'm with you 100%. However...   Expecting PF fans to be rational, when they can circle jerk over drama instead, is a recipe for disaster.

Edited by Sean Trane - May 23 2020 at 02:28

Lewian wrote: rogerthat wrote: idk, there are two categories of PF fans, or maybe three.  One is the DB apologists and I am not in that category.  Two is the St Waters fan club who think his demands are somehow justified after everything he did to alienate the rest of the band.  Third is the ones who do think of the Waters years as the best phase of the band but don't like how he treated them, Mason and Wright in particular.  I belong to the third category and I think a few of us have been posting in this thread too.  What about those who love listening to great PF music and even discussing it, but are happy to leave their personal issues alone including all discussions of the kind what bit of the music belongs to whom as a person, who has more merit in their greatness and who contributed more to their downfall... Their music has made my life richer for 40+ years, their feuds don't mean anything to me.

rogerthat wrote: Lewian wrote: rogerthat wrote: idk, there are two categories of PF fans, or maybe three.  One is the DB apologists and I am not in that category.  Two is the St Waters fan club who think his demands are somehow justified after everything he did to alienate the rest of the band.  Third is the ones who do think of the Waters years as the best phase of the band but don't like how he treated them, Mason and Wright in particular.  I belong to the third category and I think a few of us have been posting in this thread too.  What about those who love listening to great PF music and even discussing it, but are happy to leave their personal issues alone including all discussions of the kind what bit of the music belongs to whom as a person, who has more merit in their greatness and who contributed more to their downfall... Their music has made my life richer for 40+ years, their feuds don't mean anything to me. Hurray to you if you can but if Waters very PUBLICLY injects himself into this topic and in fact resurrects it, I won't blame either category of fans for commenting on it.  And their feud doesn't HAVE to mean anything to me or anybody else to have a view on it. It has not diminished my respect for his work in any way but I am not going to be indifferent about what he did to the band either.

ExittheLemming wrote: ^ That's fair comment albeit tenuously ironic from someone with Judah in their forum name

Gilmour just recently auctioned off 126 guitars (including the ones he toured with and those that were used for all the famous Floyd studio albums), and donated the resulting $21 million to charity. His interviews are always thoughtful and introspective, and he seems like a decent, caring guy who lets his music do the talking for him.

Grumpyprogfan wrote: ^He got 3.9 million for one black Strat.

The one he used on Live at Pompeii ??

Edited by Tom Ozric - May 23 2020 at 21:17

rogerthat wrote: Sean Trane wrote: ^^^ I'd say that Roger is missing one category of Floyd fans: the Syd Barrett absolutists Guess it's been so long since I've met them on here that I left them out.

Tom Ozric wrote: .....and your post shows you had a fai bit of alcomohol today 😂

rogerthat wrote: Frenetic Zetetic wrote: iluvmarillion wrote: Really don't like this revisionism going on with Roger Waters regarding who wrote what on Comfortably Numb. It's entirely between Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour and has nothing to do with Pink Floyd fans like myself who don't want to know. His feud has nothing to do with us. I'm with you 100%. However...   <span style="line-height: 1.4;">Expecting PF fans to be rational, when they can circle jerk over drama instead, is a recipe for disaster.</span> idk, there are two categories of PF fans, or maybe three.  One is the DB apologists and I am not in that category.  Two is the St Waters fan club who think his demands are somehow justified after everything he did to alienate the rest of the band.  Third is the ones who do think of the Waters years as the best phase of the band but don't like how he treated them, Mason and Wright in particular.  I belong to the third category and I think a few of us have been posting in this thread too.

I guess I would be in the third one too, only clarifying a few things. The Waters years are the best, but particularly the ones from Meddle to Animals, and not because I think it was Waters doing, but because it was a collective effort, and they all contributed to the music. Dark Side of the Moon is perhaps the album with the most contributions from Wright. However, I do consider Waters did do some of the great songs from the era, like Welcome to the Machine and Sheep. Of course his contributions seem to be magnified because he wrote the lyrics to all songs at that time, so even if he hardly contributed to the music, he still gets writing credits, and so he has credits on just about every song. And also, even if this is my favourite period, I still think they did wonderful stuff at other times, and I would rank both the earlier era, as well as the Gilmour era, over just about any other band out there.