Waves of Prog?

I've often seen people talk about periods or waves of prog. In my mind, there have been about five, the proto prog of the 60s, the 70s golden age, the neo-prog revival from about 1979-1987, the post-prog of the late 90s and 2000s (including Porcupine Tree, the Mars Volta, etc.) - which also sparked the rejuvenation of a few neo bands (eg, Pendragon with the Masquerade Overture and IQ with Subterranea - though, to be fair, Pendragon never really stopped), and lastly the new/modern prog wave we seem to be on the verge of (including Thank You Scientist, Steve Wilson, etc.) - while, at the same time, several of those neo bands that came back in the late 90s are experiencing a golden age, eg. The Road of Bones and Resistance by IQ and Love over Fear by Pendragon all released fairly recently (for prog, anyway)  are now widely considered masterpieces.

Cristi wrote: You've excluded all progressive metal. 90s prog revival with Anglagard, Spock's Beard, TFK, etc. Post rock bands? No?

It's roughly correct, although Steven Wilson isn't really in a new/modern "wave" as he's been making solo albums for 12 years.

FatherChristmas wrote: Cristi wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: Cristi wrote: You've excluded all progressive metal. 90s prog revival with Anglagard, Spock's Beard, TFK, etc. Post rock bands? No?  Good point, I did completely forgot prog metal. Mind you, I don't actually know that much about it, so I don't think I have much of right to talk about it.  acknowledge its existence at least, it's got quite diverse over the years.  That is mainly why I don't know much about it. I get a bit confused with what's prog metal, what's prog metalcore, what's prog death metal, what's prog doom metal, and what's prog death/doom metal. I acknowledge it's existence, though, certainly. I just don't really know the ins and outs of it.

chopper wrote: It's roughly correct, although Steven Wilson isn't really in a new/modern "wave" as he's been making solo albums for 12 years. I would also say proto-prog developed from the 60s into 70s prog without there really being any "wave".

FatherChristmas wrote: Cristi wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: Cristi wrote: FatherChristmas wrote: Cristi wrote: You've excluded all progressive metal. 90s prog revival with Anglagard, Spock's Beard, TFK, etc. Post rock bands? No?  Good point, I did completely forgot prog metal. Mind you, I don't actually know that much about it, so I don't think I have much of right to talk about it.  acknowledge its existence at least, it's got quite diverse over the years.  That is mainly why I don't know much about it. I get a bit confused with what's prog metal, what's prog metalcore, what's prog death metal, what's prog doom metal, and what's prog death/doom metal. I acknowledge it's existence, though, certainly. I just don't really know the ins and outs of it. And as I forgot to add, prog death/doom metalcore. there's no such thing as prog death doom metalcore. You either do not know what you are saying or you are trying to make fun of me, which is uncalled for.  I'm not making fun of you, I'm making fun of the fact there are a ridiculous number of metal subgenres.  Google this address, you'll see what I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_genres

It's a very good way to look at it and it seems quite accurate.

2010s would be my choice due to so many great debut albums.

^I was simply asking whether my idea of prog history is correct.

Details aside on what genres and sub-genres should or should not be included, I think the main assessment is accurate. As Moshquito noted, many things come in waves - music and clothing in particular (except for Zoot Suits ). Maybe my mom's Beanie Baby collection will actually have value sometime soon. Once you live a few decades you start to see it, and wonder why someone is calling a revival something new. So yes, Prog comes in waves. This is not to say that the newest wave is a recreation of an older one, but it is safe to say the older waves influence the newer ones. Other musical trends also enter into the mix, because influences tend to be diverse.