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progtime1234567
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Posted: September 22 2020 at 20:35 |
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I love Nine inch Nails but I was just wondering why they are considered Crossover Prog.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Not sure actually. I know Trent Reznor is a fan of Adrian Belew. Also, when I spoke to Steven Wilson I remember him telling me that Trent was an influence of his (along with Radiohead).
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Cristi
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what subgenre would you have him in?
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A Crimson Mellotron
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They are pretty much an industrial rock band, I never got what they do on the website. But as the descriptions of progressive rock vary from person to person, the boundaries are quite blurred, so probably some people here decided that NIN are indeed prog... Which is perfectly fine, I guess
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Cristi
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the OP does not question why NIN are on the site, or if they are progressive, but why are they under crossover prog.
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Zeph
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Yeah, which genre would you rather place them in? Industrial rock/pop is not an alternative on PA, where I would probably lump them. Here's the definition on PA:
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A Crimson Mellotron
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Crossover prog is a good fit for NIN for the website's sake. But if it was up to me, I would not have them on here.
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Zeph
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That is of course one option and the discussions about which artists should be included and not will never end. The music which can be put into "prog rock" and possibly verging close enough to be included is so diverse that it's a nightmare trying to make any kind of rules that works. PA seems to be including rather than excluding for bands on the verge, and I'm not completely against that. The biggest issue with it is which genre to use. Another issue is that once an artist has produced an album that is deemed prog, the entire catalogue is put in, and everything in the same genre. I'm more opposed to that system than too many bands being entered.
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progaardvark
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I gather at some point this conversation is going to lead to other bands that are more proggy than NIN being excluded from here. Oops, did I just type that out loud??
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well bands like ToTo are far more progressive and they didn't make the cut on progarchives so the answer is a definite NO !
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Cristi
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No to what?
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Manuel
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I have no clue why. Not bad music, but not really prog in any sense, at leat not to me.
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Yeah, I always throw on some NIN after listening to Relayer. Not.
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I like NIN, but had not considered them to be a prog band. But, since they are included on PA, crossover seems appropriate.
Since I don't want to bother with starting another thread, I've wondered about Oingo Boingo's inclusion as crossover prog as well.
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They are not prog in any way and should not be in crossover or any other genre. They should not be on here. If Toto aren't here, hundreds of bands that are here should not be.
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NIN sounds like Prog to me. But what do I know? I think XTC is Prog too...
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I think outside The Downward Spiral and The Fragile they're a bit hit and miss (with some very worthy hits), but with those two albums they fully deserve to be a considered a great band.
They're probably more "prog-related" than "Crossover prog", but I'm not sure about the difference really. Why is Iron Maiden or Queen considered prog-related and Radiohead crossover prog and not vice-versa. Or why is Mike Oldfield crossover when he was basically 100% as prog as you can get. Anyway, tags are pretty irrelevant but they're really good at their best. Johhny Cash's version of Hurt is fantastic but the bleakness and darkness of the original are unmatched. PD: Toto are AOR, like Foreigner, Boston, Journey, etc. If that's prog then everything is prog.
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I think that Nine Inch Nails are in database due to the fact that here the Progressive rock is a "spirit", not a genre. Thus, in "Crossover prog" section one can find almost everything, from the 70's Art Rock bands like Supertramp and Electric Light Orchestra to contemporary Alt.Rock bands that are "proggy".
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